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After watching this why would anyone vote for Kerry?
« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2004, 12:42:05 PM »
Was Bush Vs Gore any different?

Clinton vs. Dole?

Clinton vs Bush?

Bush vs Dukakis?
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After watching this why would anyone vote for Kerry?
« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2004, 01:25:09 PM »
Nope, we\'re always going to be stuck with someone who thinks they know what they\'re doing.

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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2004, 02:19:36 PM »
So vote for Bush. If neither knows what they\'re doing and that\'s what you\'re going on, just leave the incumbant in \'dere.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2004, 03:21:19 PM »
At least we have someone in there that you know will do what he can to curb terrorism.

Although how could you not vote for someone with so much support.

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« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2004, 08:03:18 PM »
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So vote for Bush. If neither knows what they\'re doing and that\'s what you\'re going on, just leave the incumbant in \'dere.


I can\'t vote for someone that I have zero respect for.  I don\'t keep up with this political garbage but from what I have seen I\'d feel dirty if I voted for Bush.  So, my choice is to either vote for Kerry or don\'t vote at all.

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August 30: "I don\'t think you can win it." source: NYT, Aug. 31, 04
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I know even less about Kerry just so you know...
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After watching this why would anyone vote for Kerry?
« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2004, 04:38:15 AM »
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I know even less about Kerry just so you know...


That is obvious. :rolleyes:

Kerry\'s flip flopping is just that - while an administration may have changes in policy that may look like a "flip flop".  Changes in global and domestic events may be reasons for any given adminstrations change in policy.

Speaking of zero respect - how could one respect a man that upon returning from Vietnam accused his fellow servicemen of war attrocities in order to boost his chances for advancing in politics?  He is the king of pandering to whatever group will get him votes. :rolleyes:

Also, being best buddies with Ted Kennedy doesn\'t help - being members of the most corrupt family in politics.  

Going back to vids question - what has Bush and his administration done to make you hate them so much?  Maybe you have been brainwashed by Dan Rather, Michael Moore and company?  If you say Iraq - that is a weak excuse in that every major intelligence agency confirmed he had WMD\'s and if you were a sitting President just after 9/11 would you have been willing to take that chance?  In all honesty I doubt it.  Just imagine if Gore had been in office...

Skerry Kerry has a history of being indecisive and in this day and age we don\'t have the luxury of having a weak leader who will one day support one thing and do a complete 180 the next.  

On another more superficial note his wife is even scarier than Hillary Clinton IMO.   She makes Laura Bush look like a saint in comparison.  I certainly wouldn\'t want that loadmouth, ugly troll being our first lady.
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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2004, 06:04:18 AM »
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Speaking of zero respect - how could one respect a man that upon returning from Vietnam accused his fellow servicemen of war attrocities in order to boost his chances for advancing in politics? He is the king of pandering to whatever group will get him votes.


Like I said, I don\'t know anything about Kerry and I don\'t keep up with this stuff.  I wish I didn\'t know anything about Bush but given his stance on several issues he\'s hard to ignore and, in my case, favor.

Ignorance is bliss...

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After watching this why would anyone vote for Kerry?
« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2004, 06:04:29 AM »
I haven\'t had a good debate in a while.

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Kerry\'s flip flopping is just that - while an administration may have changes in policy that may look like a "flip flop".  Changes in global and domestic events may be reasons for any given adminstrations change in policy.
Why is one a flip-flop while another is a policy change? They are both reversals on a previous decision. If Kerry were in the oval office would they then NOT be flip-flops? Do you have to be president in order to change your position based on global and domestic events? Tell me because I have an opinion but I don\'t want to be labelled a flip flopper.

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Speaking of zero respect - how could one respect a man that upon returning from Vietnam accused his fellow servicemen of war attrocities in order to boost his chances for advancing in politics?  He is the king of pandering to whatever group will get him votes. :rolleyes:
As opposed to a person that not only didn\'t go to Vietnam but deserted his post in the TxANG? How about the person that tells his supporters that Jesus speaks through him and that he talks to God before making decisions? Yeah THAT is good to hear.

"Hey Mr. President how did you deal with the decision to invade Iraq?"
Bush: "Well.....I spent the morning talking to the sky and then feeling enstrongend I told my cabinet not to missunderestimate my resolve because you are either with us or you are against us."

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Also, being best buddies with Ted Kennedy doesn\'t help - being members of the most corrupt family in politics.
As opposed to being best buddies with the Saudi Royal Family? The leaders of the country where 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were from and one of the largest supporters of terrorism worldwide?

Yeah, but some of the Kennedys have gotten away with crimes so I guess its all a wash.

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Going back to vids question - what has Bush and his administration done to make you hate them so much?  Maybe you have been brainwashed by Dan Rather, Michael Moore and company?  If you say Iraq - that is a weak excuse in that every major intelligence agency confirmed he had WMD\'s and if you were a sitting President just after 9/11 would you have been willing to take that chance?  In all honesty I doubt it.  Just imagine if Gore had been in office...
What has Bush done to make you LOVE him so much? Our economy is worse. There have been no positive trends in social policy and we are no more safer than when we started. Bush and Cheney themselves have said that another terrorist attack is imminent. So what have they done?

You and other neocons harp on the fact that Bush is a strong leader who will fight the war on terrorism(A war that Bush himself admits is unwinnable) and yet three years after 9/11 all we have to show for this war is a non-threat dictator in jail, the patriot act, and 1000+ dead US soldiers. REAL Victory.

All of this while North Korea taunts us with their emerging Nuclear Program, China steals our technology, Syria continues to harbor and support terrorists and Iran rolls their eyes at our threats. Yup Bush is a hero.

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Skerry Kerry has a history of being indecisive and in this day and age we don\'t have the luxury of having a weak leader who will one day support one thing and do a complete 180 the next.
Unless he is actually president, then it will be a policy change based on global and domestic events.

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On another more superficial note his wife is even scarier than Hillary Clinton IMO.   She makes Laura Bush look like a saint in comparison.  I certainly wouldn\'t want that loadmouth, ugly troll being our first lady.
Thats right women should be seen but NEVER heard. Just like Laura.
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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2004, 08:04:07 AM »
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I haven\'t had a good debate in a while.

Why is one a flip-flop while another is a policy change? They are both reversals on a previous decision. If Kerry were in the oval office would they then NOT be flip-flops? Do you have to be president in order to change your position based on global and domestic events? Tell me because I have an opinion but I don\'t want to be labelled a flip flopper.


Does your opinion matter BS?  Does mine?  Does a Senator\'s?  No, but the President\'s sure as hell does.  

How many "career" Senators change their stance on issues not once, but multiple times depending on which way the wind of popularity is blowing?  The main difference between a Senator and a President is that one has to make decisions that will effect an entire nation - the other can wear whatever stance is popular that day without it making any difference what so ever.  Kerry has demonstrated that he can\'t be decisive about any one issue.  Look at the interviews and news footage when he is asked a direct question - he stumbles, studders and answers the question with either a question or skips the answer entirely.  How many politicians - let alone world leaders contradict themselves in one sentence?  

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As opposed to a person that not only didn\'t go to Vietnam but deserted his post in the TxANG? How about the person that tells his supporters that Jesus speaks through him and that he talks to God before making decisions? Yeah THAT is good to hear.
 So you think those memos are true!  :laughing:  You and Dan Rather should both put on your tin foil helmets and prepare for the mothership to arrive.  Seriously, there is no credibility your accusation.  GWB was honorably discharged from the National Guard.  End of story.
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"Hey Mr. President how did you deal with the decision to invade Iraq?"
Bush: "Well.....I spent the morning talking to the sky and then feeling enstrongend I told my cabinet not to missunderestimate my resolve because you are either with us or you are against us."


Where did you dig this one up from the Democratic Underground?  Even though I am not religious - how can you blame a man for having faith?  

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As opposed to being best buddies with the Saudi Royal Family? The leaders of the country where 15 of the 19 9/11 hijackers were from and one of the largest supporters of terrorism worldwide?

Yeah, but some of the Kennedys have gotten away with crimes so I guess its all a wash.
 

More Michael Moore BS - granted the hijackers were mostly from Saudi Arabia hardly makes Bush corrupt and there is no link between the Bush family and the Saudi Royal Family - unless of course you believe what that pig Michael Moore says.
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What has Bush done to make you LOVE him so much? Our economy is worse. There have been no positive trends in social policy and we are no more safer than when we started. Bush and Cheney themselves have said that another terrorist attack is imminent. So what have they done?


Is our economy worse?  Prove it.  Take figures from the end of Clinton\'s last term and you will see they are actually better.  Also, in Bush\'s defense 9/11 did have a tremendous negative economic impact on our country - something you liberals tend to forget.

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You and other neocons harp on the fact that Bush is a strong leader who will fight the war on terrorism(A war that Bush himself admits is unwinnable) and yet three years after 9/11 all we have to show for this war is a non-threat dictator in jail, the patriot act, and 1000+ dead US soldiers. REAL Victory.


Another quote taken out of context - let me break this down for you BS.  He meant there will be no formal surrender - no formal declaration of victory like there are in conventional wars.  Maybe he didn\'t use the right terminology, but I have heard much worse gaffs from SKerry.  

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All of this while North Korea taunts us with their emerging Nuclear Program, China steals our technology, Syria continues to harbor and support terrorists and Iran rolls their eyes at our threats. Yup Bush is a hero.


And what you propose doing BS?  Invade?  Economic boycotts? :laughing: yeah they work.  Diplomacy?  The UN is worthless and France (God only knows why they were considered a major power at the end of WW2 and received a veto power) will never use force to enforce any resolution or decision made by NATO.  Yet Kerry would still have you believe that we can gain more allies through a more "sensitive" war on terror.  Typical liberal - cries about Iraq - yet demands something be done about Iran and North Korea.

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Thats right women should be seen but NEVER heard. Just like Laura.


Laura has class and social etiquette - something Terezzza deeply lacks.  She is an embarassment.
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2004, 08:36:32 AM »
More great John Kerry quotes:  Go ahead vote for him... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

"While talking about the economy, health-care policy, Kerry went off speech and began stumbling immediately. Kerry said that he would always tell the public the truth, and if the audience didn\'t believe him, they could "[g]o to a web site. It can be johnkerry.com or go some other place. Go to truth.com, if there is one, and find out what\'s really happening," Kerry said.

Truth.com won\'t set you free, but at least you\'ll be able to see a bit more clearly. Truth.com is operated by Truth Hardware, makers of a complete line of locks, window hinges and remote-controlled power window systems."

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« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2004, 11:00:18 AM »
Im glad you stick to your guns my friend but i wouldnt be ":laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: "-ing if i were you. That is unless you are 100% positive that Bush will win. And if THAT were the case then all of this wouldnt even be worth debating. Of course its all for entertainment anyway.

And its funny how you, on a semi regular bassis, like to throw around the word "liberal." Im sure you dont need any reassurance of where you stand and where others do. And im sure that nobody else does. Didnt your mother ever tell you that name calling isnt nice ;). Very mature. Im sure you cant think EVERY "liberal" is off their rocker. I know there are a lot of stupid people in this country but thats bold.  

Dont take this the wrong way, but it too often seems that you find all of this 10x more amusing than the next guy. Not that there is really anything wrong with that.
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« Reply #26 on: September 13, 2004, 11:40:55 AM »
Hmmm since when was liberal a bad word - unless of course you think it is bad to be liberal?  If you didn\'t notice I was called a "neocon" by BS - the often over used leftwing buzzword of the moment. :rolleyes:  So, one label deserves another.  

You also forget Nicon - I love politics - that is what my undergraduate was in - Political Theory.  I hope you understand why I find this so amusing, in that some would clearly pick an inferior person to lead this country out of misplaced hatred toward GWB.  You also tend to forget I don\'t agree with the Republicans on every issue on their platform.  I just happen to think the Republicans have solid issues unlike the Democrats who seem to be trying to make every single interest group happy to the point that their message has become incoherent.
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« Reply #27 on: September 13, 2004, 12:17:55 PM »
Wow... Kerry gets owned in that video.

He should just man up and say that he regretted his decision. Oh wait, that would have cost him the democratic nomination. What a caterer.

Like I said, +1 Bush.

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« Reply #28 on: September 13, 2004, 03:02:03 PM »
The whole negative campaigning against Kerry is getting so old.  The fact is, half of his votes are gonna come from people who don\'t like him, but would just vote for anyone before Bush.
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« Reply #29 on: September 13, 2004, 04:14:24 PM »
My post was obviously in jest, but like many of you I am very disappointed in the "AS LONG AS ITS NOT TEH BUSH" voters. Actually, as pro-Bush as I am, I don\'t think anybody should vote for any candidate if they don\'t know what they\'re voting for.. including Bush.

Voting for Bush just because he\'s not Kerry would be dumb. On the other hand, nobody should feel "dirty" voting for anybody that they agree with. Both sides of the media have painted stereotypes on our candidates and I think it\'s really disgusting when I hear somebody bashing Kerry because he\'s too stiff, or because his daughters are ugly, or because he windsurfs.

If you\'re going to bash him, bash him for being a flip-flopping left-leaning scumbag! Sheesh! :)
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