Hiromichi Tanaka(FFXI) not happy with new PS2...

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When the slim-downed unit was revealed, keen-eyed observers asked, "where\'s the hard-disc drive bay?" We posed the question to Sony, which confirmed new unit would not have an HDD bay. However, Sony assured gamers that the lack of an HDD bay "was NOT a sign of Sony Computer Entertainment’s change in philosophy regarding the hard disc drive" and that the company is looking into "other memory options."

So where does that leave PS2 players of Final Fantasy XI, which requires the HDD? According to Sony, there\'s no problem, because "consumers who want and use the hard disc drive are typically the more ‘hard core’ gamers, and with more than 27 Million PlayStation 2 units already sold in North America, we feel that a majority of those HDD interested consumers already have their PlayStation 2 units."

However, a statement by FFXI producer Hiromichi Tanaka to a British game site didn\'t sound nearly as upbeat. "We\'re still preparing, and looking into perhaps even changing platforms, because once the PlayStation 2 is phased out, [the FFXI] population will have to move somewhere," he said.

I doubt this poses a huge threat but why wouldn\'t Sony just support the HDD?  Was it a flop?

No one supports it except for Squaresoft and two other games.  Socom II will be the 4th game with some new downloadable maps soon.  That\'s about it.    Pretty weak in regards to the overall userbase of the machine.  A slimmed down new design for the PSTwo fits in with Sony\'s original idea for their consoles.  I think Square can go blow a goat.  They haven\'t produced anything original this generation anyways.  Who cares what they think?  Their overall presense in the console world is nowhere near as important as it was four years ago.

Originally posted by Ryu
I think Square can go blow a goat.

They haven\'t produced anything original this generation anyways.  Who cares what they think?  Their overall presense in the console world is nowhere near as important as it was four years ago.

I wouldn\'t say their originality rocked last generation either.  It\'s their standard RPGs that manage to sell millions and I would consider them a system seller company.  

I doubt this effects this rest of Square and I can only guess that by platform changes he meant PS3 but now is not the time for Sony to burn any bridges.

will the PS2 recognize the HD if placed in an external bay and plugged into USB port?

I believe they should sell FFXI on CD that comes with some memory device.But then again I dont know how much memory people need for the many updates and patches that are released once in a while for it

Originally posted by mm
will the PS2 recognize the HD if placed in an external bay and plugged into USB port?

somebody mentioned that in another thread but I can\'t find anything to confirm it.

PSTwo is USB 1.1 and there are no firewire ports on this one.

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So, you are saying the slimmed down new version of PS2 lack the Firewire connection?

I agree that the HDD need a faster connection and USB for PS2 isn\'t fast enough.  Its USB 1.1 like THX said which run at 12 Mbits max....

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I should take the time to dig up all the posts I made on why the HDD would be a failure, and how some of you kept trying to convince yourselves it was going to be a success... Just for the record, I was right. It was a failure and even Sony notices this.

^Nobody cares if you were right ages ago.And nobody said it was going to be succesful.We took the "wait and see" approach.

hard drive\'s dont belong on consoles
i said this years ago

I like how I don\'t have any limits on gamesaves, don\'t have to spend $30 on a 8MB memory card, and how I can save my favorite songs to a custom playlist to be used in certain games.

I don\'t have Xbox Live so I can\'t comment on the downloadble material.  It can work great, it just neeeds to come with the system.

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Originally posted by Unicron!
^Nobody cares if you were right ages ago.And nobody said it was going to be succesful.We took the "wait and see" approach.

Bullshit.
Go back and look at various threads and you will see there was no "wait and see" approach. Don\'t you try and backtrack on it, now that I have been proven correct.

Originally posted by mm
hard drive\'s dont belong on consoles
i said this years ago

Disagree. Hard drive\'s are great for consoles, provided they are not half-assed done, like Sony\'s.

Ok.You are right and special

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Originally posted by Unicron!
Ok.You are right and special

Damn skippy.