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Offline GigaShadow
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« Reply #90 on: October 01, 2004, 11:13:41 AM »
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Originally posted by Deadly Hamster
Listen carefully.

He had less information and less points to argue then Kerry.

So he then seemed more direct and focused.

And that appeals to the American people.

Although in reality he didn\'t say as much about the issues as Kerry.

Therefore his actual LACK of substance may end up helping him.


2. the meaning or gist, as of speech or writing.

Kerry\'s gist was to "hold a summit".  So who had the lack of substance again?
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« Reply #91 on: October 01, 2004, 11:15:53 AM »
IMO Kerry said more then your giving him credit for.
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« Reply #92 on: October 01, 2004, 11:17:49 AM »
I watched it and even read the transcripts - he didn\'t say anything he hadn\'t said before other then letting us know that his brand new plan for Iraq was to hold a "summit".  Genius I say!
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« Reply #93 on: October 01, 2004, 11:18:41 AM »
And it was still more then Bush said. ;)
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« Reply #94 on: October 01, 2004, 11:21:33 AM »
Uh Bush has already been talking to other countries.  Bush already figured out that doesn\'t work.  Kerry is still 3 steps behind when it comes to foreign policy ideas.

Is it so hard for you to understand DH that France and Germany will not be sending troops to Iraq.  Neither will any Arab or Muslim country.
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« Reply #95 on: October 01, 2004, 11:29:21 AM »
I don\'t want anyone else to send troops to Iraq.

I want them to talk about the direction in which the middle eastern area of the world should be heading, and how to make it get there quicker.
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« Reply #96 on: October 01, 2004, 12:33:34 PM »
So now its the Giga/DH debate... *sigh*

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« Reply #97 on: October 01, 2004, 12:39:44 PM »
I refuse to debate anyone that can\'t understand the word substance. ;)
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« Reply #98 on: October 01, 2004, 12:56:13 PM »
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What would the world consider imminent?


Well, generally it means "about to happen".
 
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I am not willing to put that decision in a governing world body\'s hand. With allies like France who needs enemies? We haven\'t been close to France since the the 80\'s when they wouldn\'t allow us to use their airspace so Reagan could attack Libya for sponsoring terrorism.


Okay forget France, let\'s talk about all those other countries that make up the eastern world.  There needs to be stronger relations and Bush just doesn\'t seem to make an effort and even worse it seems like he doesn\'t care.  No doubt he\'s tried, that\'s not good enough.  I want to hear about how he\'s going to pursue a global alliance on the war on terror. We absolutely will not win the global terror threat alone.  Bush would rather have you believe "mission accomplished" or some shit like that.

Giga, you keep going back to Iraq and I don\'t think you\'re seeing the bigger picture.  If there is to be a "victory" on the global terror threat then everyone has to help thus the NEED for stronger alliances.  Bush has caught quite a bit of criticism from other countries concerning his approach with the Iraq war and that shows from the lack of support and from countries losing interest in our efforts.  He took decisive action without the facts, of course he\'s going to lose some credibility.  It\'s our mess, now we have to clean it up.

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Threats come in many different varieties. Go back up and read my post about Iraqi intelligence from the UK, Russia and CIA and couple that with how Saddam felt about the US and how he was sponsoring suicide bombers in Israel. It doesn\'t take a rocket scientist to see that Saddam was a credible threat to the US.


Why is it that all this intelligence has proven to be false?
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« Reply #99 on: October 01, 2004, 12:56:28 PM »
"The only thing consistent about my opponent is his inconsistentcy"

That was pretty good.
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« Reply #100 on: October 01, 2004, 12:59:55 PM »
If anyone is interested, Aftonbladet.se (our biggest newspaper) has had an poll for two days.

Yesterday, Bush was leading by ~20% in the question "Who do you think will win the election?", now the result is:
Kerry: 43.3 %
Bush: 47.4 %
Not sure: 9.3 %
(97337 people has answered the poll so far)

And another poll:
"Who do you hope wins the election?"
Kerry: 82.7 %
Bush: 13.8 %
Not sure: 3.5 %
(104730 people has answered the poll so far)

About the debate, I have only seen a small part. But nice to see those two talking about politics for once, I was afraid your elections were about everything but politics. ;)
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« Reply #101 on: October 01, 2004, 01:01:46 PM »
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"The only thing consistent about my opponent is his inconsistentcy"

That was pretty good.


lol, one of the few complete sentences or thoughts to come out of him...probably had to rehearse it 40 times before he got it right.  and what about the "mexed" messages.  laughable.

Kerry had his "You can be certain, but you can be certain and be wrong."  as was the case when war was declared on Iraq.
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« Reply #102 on: October 01, 2004, 02:53:44 PM »
Those 2 poll questions were totally different, who do you think will win, and who do you want to win, so one being a day before the debate and one after doesn\'t really relate being that they are not the same question.

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« Reply #103 on: October 01, 2004, 03:06:21 PM »
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Those 2 poll questions were totally different, who do you think will win, and who do you want to win, so one being a day before the debate and one after doesn\'t really relate being that they are not the same question.


Read it again.

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Yesterday, Bush was leading by ~20% in the question "Who do you think will win the election?", now the result is:
Kerry: 43.3 %
Bush: 47.4 %
Not sure: 9.3 %
(97337 people has answered the poll so far)


I\'m assuming the same applies for the other poll.

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« Reply #104 on: October 01, 2004, 03:23:00 PM »
Can\'t wait for Tuesday\'s VP Debate.

This one has to favor the Democrats, Edwards is a much better public speaker than Cheney.  Plus Edwards is 10x more likeable.

It was always clear cut for me, Edwards would have gotten my vote, but now that Kerry got the ticket I\'m not so sure.
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