Nintendo DS

Originally posted by Lord Nicon
Question. Whats the purpose of an "addition" in this field of gaming? People would buy both and still buy games for each for what reason? I cant see any right now. If the DS has the power to play the GBA games (not that it will) then why create two hand helds? Its like getting back to the Sega CD/32X days (which failed more or less). Just another way to milk money.

The DS is capable of playing GBA/GBA SP games.

Nintendo saw an opportunity and went for it.  Apparently they aren\'t the only ones excited for it as there are over 120 games in development.  Besides that it has been stated that the DS is an indication of where Nintendo is headed with Revolution.  I\'d have to find a report but I think Nintendo expects to sell one million of them by the year\'s end.

Theres no purpose in buying damn near $230 worth of handhelds just to play two different mediums. Actually i dont see any point in supporting two if one could have the ability to play the other\'s games.

Well, if you don\'t want to play DS games then the cheaper GBA SP is the right solution.  It\'s about innovation and choices.  How is this a bad thing?

Originally posted by Ginko
Well, if you don\'t want to play DS games then the cheaper GBA SP is the right solution.  It\'s about innovation and choices.  How is this a bad thing?

Its not a bad thing. The thing is that you said it wasnt the "successor" when in all acuality it is. Its the same thing as the ps2 to the ps. The ps support didnt stop when ps2 came out, but ps2 was the next in line not an addition. THIS was the problem.

The Nintendo DS is supposedly a third pillar between the current GameBoy and Gamecube. I really can’t see how the DS fits this description at all, however, it is an exciting piece of hardware and if the GameBoy is anything to go by, it will sell like hotcakes. What we have is not a successor to the GBA SP but a new handheld device. We are still promised a future successor to the SP which reiterates the position that the DS no successor but rather a totally fresh and engaging piece of hardware.

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As I said it\'s not the successor to the GBA, just an addition to the family.

Nintendo wants to use the wireless download functions, not just for single-card multiplayer, but for downloading temporary demos from stores and, get this, downloading new Pokemon for the GBA Pokemon game while at a theater watching the newest Pokemon movies.

Innovations?



And Sony isn\'t dropping the ball either. For example, PSP will have nice graphics.

-Dan

Originally posted by Eiksirf
Nintendo wants to use the wireless download functions, not just for single-card multiplayer, but for downloading temporary demos from stores and, get this, downloading new Pokemon for the GBA Pokemon game while at a theater watching the newest Pokemon movies.

Innovations?



And Sony isn\'t dropping the ball either. For example, PSP will have nice graphics.

-Dan

You don\'t consider the Duel Screen/touch screen innovative???

No doubt PSP will have nice graphics, it looks amazing however Sony has some issues to address.  The system supposedly runs very hot, battery life is up to the developers, and as of the moment the launch list is rather short.  It just seems like it\'s being rushed at the moment...

I really didn\'t want this to turn into a PSP thread...I\'m tempted to make a PSP vs. DS to divert all this comparison.

EDIT:  In fact, you know what.  Lord Nicon, you\'re right.  Eik, you\'re right.  Just please drop it.  If you really want I\'ll put together a PSP vs. DS thread, just don\'t ruin this one!

SECOND EDIT: I don\'t like how I left it, I\'m going to put together a PSP vs. DS thread.  I just need to gather some info...

Nintendo DS Launch Titles Revealed
Nintendo DS Hands-On Update
Metroid Hunters Demonstration
Yoshi\'s Touch & Go Hands-On

Oh christmas will be fun this year.

Nintendo DS + Mario 64 DS = one happy person.

Originally posted by Paul2
DS is only a n64 in handheld...

Sheeeet....If they release a version of Goldeneye for this thing I may just have to by my first handheld in over 10 years.

Black Samurai, the Golden Eye will be EA\'s Rogue Agent.
>>>EA reveals details on DS lineup<<<

>>>First Viewtiful Joe DS details<<<

In other Nintendo handheld news...

15th October 2004

Nintendo\'s Game Boy Advance SP saw an increase of over 200% in its first two weeks of sales following its first ever European price drop to around £69.99. In addition, after only 2 days on sale, a staggering 250,000 Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon LeafGreen games were sold, following the games\' launch on 1st October.

Jim Merrick, Senior Director of European Marketing for Nintendo of Europe, said,

"This is a record sales uplift for the handheld console that continues to lead the market, with a European installed base of almost 5 million. This recent price drop enables us to offer gamers everywhere the Game Boy Advance SP at its most affordable price ever and with so many great games available now and in the future, there has never been a better time to get into handheld gaming.

The phenomenal success of Pokémon FireRed and Pokémon LeafGreen in the first two days on sale proves that the franchise is still very much alive. For the first time ever in a Pokémon game, we have introduced wireless gameplay through the use of a Wireless Adaptor (bundled free with the game). We believe this, plus the host of new features in the game, have been key to its success."

In the run up to Christmas 2004 Nintendo will be launching more highly anticipated games including, The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap and Mario vs. Donkey Kong. Add to this a great list of third party games such as Need for Speed Underground 2 and The Lord of the Rings; The Third Age (EA), Tony Hawk\'s Underground 2 (Activision) and Disney Pixar\'s The Incredibles (THQ), and gamers have never had it so good!

Game Boy Advance SP is currently available in black, arctic blue, flame red, blue, silver, Limited Tribal Edition and Classic NES Edition. On the 29th October the Game Boy Advance SP Limited Pink Edition launches across the UK.

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Last hand held i ever bought was the Game Gear. I never owned a gameboy, and to be honest there have been few times where i actually did.

There were so many other handhelds that i liked more that ended up dying. The closest handheld to being popular and living alongside gb in japan that i can think of was the Neo Geo Pocket and pocket color. I dont think the wonderswan lived for too long.

IDK. We\'ll see how things go. I had something else to say but i kinda forgot and it would have required some research i think.

Meh.

Ginko, I was saying how those were pretty innovative ideas. And I do think two screens and a touch screen and built-in mic and wireless function are all different degress of innovation.

-Dan

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Innnovation means nothing if it is not used properly or ignored altogether, which I think the DS will have the problem of overcoming.

Licky, have you read up on any of the DS titles? 0_o

Nintendo\'s forecase shows they expect to ship or sell one million before the end of the year.  Perhaps they\'re being optimistic but maybe there\'s a strong interests...we\'ll have to wait and see.

LIC:he said idea=refering to the future possibilitites

Oh and its not released yet.So you cant comment on DS overcoming a non-existent problem yet

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Originally posted by Unicron!
LIC:he said idea=refering to the future possibilitites

Oh and its not released yet.So you cant comment on DS overcoming a non-existent problem yet

Do us a favour, read before you post.. Let me quote myself.

which I think the DS will have the problem of overcoming.

Do you notice a key word in that sentence? Let me spell it out for you, \'T-H-I-N-K\'. I said "I think" the DS will have those problems to overcome.  When someone says they "think", it is another way of saying that it is their opinion on something. So, please read before you post.

Originally posted by Ginko
Licky, have you read up on any of the DS titles? 0_o

Nintendo\'s forecase shows they expect to ship or sell one million before the end of the year.  Perhaps they\'re being optimistic but maybe there\'s a strong interests...we\'ll have to wait and see.

Not really, the DS never really interested me. I will buy one, but it is not high on my list. None of the titles really interest me and some of the games, like Mario 64 DS makes me worry. I mean, part of the reason Mario 64 was so excellent was due to the N64 controller which was designed for Nintendo first party titles like Mario 64, so exactly how will the game transfer to the DS handheld?