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Offline Mr. Kennedy
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« on: October 11, 2004, 05:41:15 PM »
Wow, what can I say, I haven\'t played it, but this game sort of came out of no where.

First off, Gamespot gave it a 9.2.  That itself is worth noting because any game scoring a 9.0 or higher from Gamespot is the real deal.

Here\'s just a few excerpts from the Gamespot Review:

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This new role-playing game from Nintendo and developer Intelligent Systems is truly inspired. It\'s practically overflowing with wonderful, funny characters, memorable subplots, inventive gameplay, and beautiful visuals, and it\'s lengthy and quite challenging to boot.


This coming from a game that didn\'t really have a long developement time, I don\'t even believe it was announced until a couple years ago.  Nintendo scores big, but they could have done better promoting it, it slid under the radar.

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On the whole, the world of the game is brilliantly imagined and fully realized: It\'s filled with just about all the weird characters you may have seen in past Mario games, and yet here they\'re mostly just going about their day-to-day business, trying to make ends meet. The effect is reminiscent of Pixar\'s computer-animated movies (such as A Bug\'s Life or Finding Nemo), whose fantastic storybook worlds are believable partly because, in a lot of ways, they\'re mundane--not so different from real life. That\'s exactly the effect that Paper Mario goes for, and it\'s hugely successful at achieving it.


Sometimes it\'s the simple things that make a game successful.

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The game\'s storybook look also paves the way for some unique play mechanics, in how Mario actually has paperlike properties in the game. It\'s a level of abstraction that works beautifully in this surreal setting. Basically, Mario will learn how to slip through narrow gaps and gratings, glide like a paper airplane, roll up into a tube, and more. These unique abilities--which he learns in some of the game\'s funnier moments--allow you to gradually gain access to new areas. You\'ll also upgrade your hammer and your shoes during the course of the game, opening up even more venues to explore in the process. The gradual "unlocking" of the world is done quite subtly, actually. You\'ll gain some surprising new ability and then start to notice parts of the world in which the ability could come in handy. Of course, some of these abilities aren\'t just for exploration--they\'re also good for beating the tar out of Paper Mario\'s dozens of different bad guys.


This is what you expect from great games, something new brought to the table, and that\'s what it has done.

Full Review - Gamespot

I can\'t honestly say I was anticipating this game, to tell you the truth it sort of came to me.  I was just parusing around and figured I\'d check out the review, I was amazed when I read it.  I  plan on picking this baby up on Thursday or Friday.  I can\'t judge now, but this game looks like it could rival Fable for RPG of the year.  I reccomend this to all of you Gamecube owners, the few of us there may be.

Buy it, Rent it, do whatever, tell me what you think.
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2004, 02:41:05 AM »
I hate all things Mario now...I miss the old school days on the NES. I tried watching my little cousin play paper mario, and I almost damn near slit my wrists to relieve the pain.

I don\'t trust reviews anymore until I\'ve actually played the game myself. And I don\'t even go to gamespot, as their webpage isn\'t the most enjoyable to browse through.

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« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2004, 11:39:06 AM »
Agreed, Gamespot has horrible navigation for such a big website.

As for the game, I\'m not into RPGs but I\'m glad to see another decent game on the Gamecube.  I have to admit mine will stay dusty until RE4. :(

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« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2004, 03:29:11 PM »
Who expected Paper Mario 2 to fail? All Mario RPG games to date have rox0red my box0rs..
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« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2004, 06:37:09 PM »
In case you didn\'t notice, this game got zero hype.
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« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2004, 08:41:35 PM »
I never dug the original Paper Mario, but that was due to turn based combat..*shrugs* ... I simply cannot get into a game that has turned base combat.

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« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2004, 08:45:35 PM »
Gamespot\'s navigation is great.  I never understood how people could have a problem with it.  If you have any trouble finding a review or anything of that nature, just bookmark the following page.  You can organize that however which way you want to and all new reviews end up there.  You can organize it by platform, score, whatever.  I don\'t know how people find this complicated...  Even the url for it is pretty basic.
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« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2004, 08:50:14 PM »
Can you give me a link to both pics and hardware specs of the Gamecube?  I was able to find it at IGN in under 15 seconds.

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« Reply #8 on: October 12, 2004, 09:15:28 PM »
This game is out now?

Although I never played the original Paper Mario, I still have my SNES hooked up to my TV in the basement and once every year atleast I camp there for a day or two playing Mario RPG.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2004, 12:27:11 AM »
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I never understood how people could have a problem with it.
Hmmm...probably because the navigation sucks...Just guessing (IMHO). I\'ve never been able to find the things I\'m looking for as fast as let\'s say...ANY OTHER WEBPAGE.

I\'d prefer IGN if they weren\'t so stupid and charged an assload what other pages give for free.

If you\'ve unlocked the magical secrets of Gamespot navigation, then well...I\'m happy for you...

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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2004, 10:18:18 AM »
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Hmmm...probably because the navigation sucks...Just guessing (IMHO). I\'ve never been able to find the things I\'m looking for as fast as let\'s say...ANY OTHER WEBPAGE.

I\'d prefer IGN if they weren\'t so stupid and charged an assload what other pages give for free.

If you\'ve unlocked the magical secrets of Gamespot navigation, then well...I\'m happy for you...


Well I hate it now. You use to could select your console. Go to reviews pull down the drop menue and select from a list of games all in alphabetical order. Now I have no idea what the hell is going on. I can\'t find nothing. I just give up now:(
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2004, 10:26:20 AM »
Back to the topic...

The second review is in IGN gave it a 9.1.

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But before you shrug off Paper Mario 2 as an uninspired repeat not worthy of your attention, consider for a moment what really makes a great Mario game. Sure, The Thousand-Year Door doesn\'t stray far from the formula, but it oozes fun, polish, and, strangely enough, originality. With nearly every other RPG series out there going for elaborate story cutscenes, twisting narratives, and darker visuals, Paper Mario 2 manages to stand out as something a bit different. Nintendo has once again crafted a game that manages to appeal to two distinct audiences at the same time. Kids can enjoy the intuitive gameplay, colorful worlds, and happy-happy characters, while older gamers will chuckle at the many classic Nintendo references and humorous situations.
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2004, 10:29:55 AM »
Oh and one other.

Gamespy gave it 4/5 Stars.

Full Review - Gamespy

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And when it comes to Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door, it\'s mostly all good. If you have a history of playing 2D side-scrollers, this game will make you remember just why you loved them. And if you have a soul, then this game will make it feel all warm and fuzzy.


Enjoy. :P
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2004, 02:41:36 PM »
I get so many magazines so I forget which ones, but I saw it rated lower twice.

I heard although it\'s artistic as all hell, it\'s retread and the dialogue isn\'t as endearing as it used to be.

I am surprised the dialogue might be lacking, but the storyline rehash doesn\'t surprise me. Paper Mario was just a copy of Mario RPG... Though I loved them both. :)

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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2004, 04:08:17 PM »
ummm I don\'t remember Geno or Mallow in Paper Mario, am I missing something?
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