Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada

[SirMystiq]

I\'m scared.

The Republican party will lead this country in a less free anti-nonchristian rule ever.

And to add not only do they have the Senate Bush would more than likely have to appoint new judges to the Supreme court.

They would hold power to every branch of our government.

I don\'t doubt that slowly this country will slowly be heading in a terrible direction. Bye bye roe v wade and any other civil rights that on-the call Christians think are wrong.

We might as well start getting used to carrying a cross around in order for us not to get arrested.

Like I\'ve said before in another thread...

The fathers of this country are crying in their graves.

[SirMystiq]

I wouldn\'t move but I really don\'t want to see that guy as president.

This country is again going thru a stage of "christianity" Back in the 60\'s it was all about rights and freedom now it\'s about morals and abortion.

Originally posted by SirMystiq
I wouldn\'t move but I really don\'t want to see that guy as president.

This country is again going thru a stage of "christianity" Back in the 60\'s it was all about rights and freedom now it\'s about morals and abortion.

One intresting point is that during the eighties with Regan as Prez
his approval rating was lackluster through most of his reign. (I remember him being demonized in the media, in much the same way Bush is now)

Religion and "moral stance" played a large part in the way he did things and there was a very large and looming threat of WWIII with the cold war.

His grand visions for bringing down the Iron Curtain were poo pooed as too far reaching, but in the end he pulled it off and now the man is practically cannonized.

I am not saying that W. can pull off what he is attempting to, nor am I saying that he can not, however, If anyone had suggested Reagan would be as loved and revered 21 years later, at the end of his 1st term, most would not have believed it.

Originally posted by SirMystiq
 Back in the 60\'s it was all about rights and freedom now it\'s about morals and abortion.

As much as I don\'t want to turn this thread into this direction, I have to say... What is wrong with Bush\'s abortion standpoint? He is for abortion in instances of rape, incest, and when the mother\'s life is in danger... And you don\'t have to have any association with religion to decipher whether or not abortion is something that should be used as a method of birth control. Why gamble with not knowing whether the child is or is not alive?

Back to your post though, I do agree that Bush does use religion in some form in terms of governing the country, however only to a certain extent. Keep in mind he does (probably more than anybody involved in politics) support the death penalty. Death penalty is a big no-no amongst Christians.

Mystiq... you are being way too melodramatic.

[SirMystiq]

Are you kidding?

Go to any Christian forum or talk to any Christian person. They know what this election means. The only thing they hope for is to abolish all of those things.

I\'m not being melodramatic, it\'s going to happen.

This country was formed under the impression that there will always be check and balance and now it\'s not going to be that way.

[SirMystiq]

I don\'t know.


I have a problem with telling women to have  a baby. Something just doesn\'t click you know?

I see where you\'re coming from... if a woman is gonna spread those legs, she has to keep the consequences in mind. Like I said, abortion should never be a form of birth control.

More than likely a Christian-voter\'s incentive was based upon their religion, I agree with you there.

What I disagree with is your prediction that we\'re going to turn into some zealous theocracy.

Originally posted by SwifDi
What I disagree with is your prediction that we\'re going to turn into some zealous theocracy.

Agree.  You are worried about nothing.

Originally posted by SirMystiq

I don\'t doubt that slowly this country will slowly be heading in a terrible direction. Bye bye roe v wade and any other civil rights that on-the call Christians think are wrong.

And this country will be a better place without partial birth abortion.  Hell, no abortion sounds great to me.  And to all the people that say more deaths will come from people getting them illegally.  :rolleyes: I like Bush\'s stance on this.

We might as well start getting used to carrying a cross around in order for us not to get arrested.

You\'re a left wing nut.  This is coming from someone that isn\'t that religious.  Just breath, they aren\'t forcing religion on anyone.

I don\'t want to derail this topic... eh, maybe I do, but I\'m for a woman\'s right to choose.  It\'s not because I think people shouldn\'t have to put up with births due to promiscuous sex or anything like that, but it\'s because we, as a nation, have not taken responsibility for the children born and given up for adoption.  What good is giving birth to hundreds of unwanted children?  How many people in this forum have actually been morally religious enough to support this "no abortion" stance and yet remain to do nothing about the children without a good home?  I just don\'t see the logic behind the double standard on this one...

People would rather pay 70 cents a week to adopt a kid from Africa then to adopt a kid here from America.  What kind of whacked out shit is that?  And yet there are people who believe having more unwanted children given up for adoption is somehow a good thing?  

I just don\'t understand the justification behind that.  Someone, please, anyone who believes in taking away a woman\'s right to choose, please explain to me why.

Heres the thing, IMO, I believe if abortions weren\'t legal, you\'d have less young people having babies, maybe not less having sex just people being more careful in who and what they choose to sleep with. If you think about it, why should someone 24 years old who went out got knocked up not be responsible for that??? Rape and other things are good idea, but just because you made a mistake you\'re going to kill a fetus(notice I didn\'t say baby)???

Well, most men shoulder women with the responsibility of birth control and the morning after pill in the first place so why shouldn\'t women have the right to choose?  Promiscuous sex is going to happen whether people like it or not and it will continue to happen whether abortions are legal or not.  Why take away the option at all?

I really want to be apathetic to the issue, but I just don\'t like the thought of women getting knocked up, aborting the baby, and simply using abortion as a last resort in terms of birth control. It shouldn\'t come down to that.