Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada

It\'s not like women go out to get knocked up just to have an abortion.  It should be noted that abortions are not free and there is inherant risks to having them including the loss to ever have children again.  That option should be a choice the woman has to make on their own.

Good points Ryu but you\'ll never get this conservative to think abortion is the right thing to do for a woman who forgot to take the pill.

In my feeble, 1940\'s mind I still think sex should be saved for marriage.  Many people still believe this as well and shudder at the thought of millions of moms killing off their children before they have the chance to live.

Again you bring up good points, it just depends which side of the tracks you\'re from.  I can see how other people shudder at the thought of having sex with just one person their whole life.

[SirMystiq]

LOL

I was being overly sarcastic with those comments.

And you\'re truly fooling yourselfs if you think that Bush will be stopped dead on his tracks if he tries to amend the constitution or do something. He will have full support.

Good points Ryu but you\'ll never get this conservative to think abortion is the right thing to do for a woman who forgot to take the pill.

I\'m not trying to say it\'s a substitute as the pill is still the cheap and easy alternative to an abortion, but I do think having an abortion is a much better alternative to a woman giving birth to an unwanted child and giving it away to a public who is unwilling to shoulder the financial burden we all will have to share.

I am curious of one thing though, do you guys, conservatives, think taking away a woman\'s right to choose and forcing them to undergo an unwanted pregnancy is the best thing for the child or the only suitable punishment for the mother?  I\'m starting to think these two things, when it comes to removing the right to choose, are easily confused with one another when it comes to conservatives.

In my feeble, 1940\'s mind I still think sex should be saved for marriage. Many people still believe this as well and shudder at the thought of millions of moms killing off their children before they have the chance to live.

I agree with most of that.  I too am someone who believes in sex only after marriage and I don\'t believe in having many sexual partners before settling on one.  However, I do think that bringing a child into a world where they are not wanted and\\or needed and throwing them into the system is a lot worse then destroying the fetus.  Perhaps if orphans or adopted children were handled a LOT better, I might agree with you, but if given the option in this day and age, giving the woman the right to choose is, in my whole hearted opinion, the humane thing to do.

[Jumpman]

Quick fact about Canada or atleast where I live-if you get caught with 13 grams of weed you CAN\'T be arrested. 14 grams is the minimum for possesion.

Well could you atleast explain me this one Ryu.  Why should partial birth abortion be legal?

Because the kid is better off not being born to a mother who didn\'t want it in the first place.

Agh. This is another issue that makes me think that Americans are a little dumber than Australians. The Liberal/National Coalition government, which is supposedly the Republican equivalent in Australia, supports and upholds a woman\'s right to chose. Why is it even an issue over there? Jesus!

If the child is unwanted and it will be lost in the system like so many others, why condemn it to that fate?  Like I said, if there was a far better system in place where all pregnancys could receive the same care and love as fortunate people such as you or I, then I would agree it wouldn\'t be necessary.  However, so few children in the current system given up in that environment are actually afforded that chance.

Originally posted by Black Samurai
What is it? Everyone is saying that voters have put in a new mandate towards the government. The problem with this is that no one can agree on what put Bush over the top. So basically the republican party can really do whatever they want with little to no opposition.

It really is a good time to be a Republican politician.

Worst case senario (the drunk with power one)

Say goodbye too..

• Abortions (even if they are considered legal now, we could be looking at a blanket ban)
• Stem cell research (back to the Dark ages for joooooo)
• Job\'s…well meaningful ones anyway
• Free speech
• Iran
• The separation between church and state
• Evolution theory in schools

And say HELLLLLOOOOOOOOO to

• The draft :laughing:
• Patriot act Version 2.0
• The birth and growth of Puritanism (for reference see the aftermath of the English civil war...only without Oliver Cromwell ;) )
• Prayers & the creation theory in schools
• Atheism to be made illegal(sorry i slipped that one in :p)

Now lets all remind ourselves of the definition of this well known phrase.

You have made your bed now lye in it

Definition
This expression is commonly used as a response to people who have been complaining about problems they have brought on themselves.

Best case senario (the building a legacy one)

He has a Ronald Reagan sytle second term.

I.E. he go\'s into the completely opposite direction he took in his first term.

Originally posted by GigaShadow
Who seriously would pack up and leave based on a presidential election?  

Christ... wake up Giga

Most of the free world outside the US. want the leave the planet for the next 4 years... never mind move to canada.

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Ahhh why am i laughing ?

The whole world is going to hell in a hand cart.... i might as well enjoy the ride .

Hard to find out if you\'re more of drama queen or just pure attention whore.

Whine all you want you know by the end of Bush\'s term none of those worst case scenarios you say will come true.

You just want attention.  Yup, pure attention whore.

aww, don\'t be too hard on him. at least he emphasised that it was THE WORST CASE SCENARIO. no one expects it to come to that, duh. but interesting to contemplate nontheless.

To Avatarr

Thanks bud... i am, glad someone read it right .

Yeah like i said its THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.

Unlikely to happen... but if it does... i am out of here ...next stop my underground bunker .

So if America stops aborting children you\'re gonna be in your bunker all the way in Scotland?  Is this because there\'ll be even more Americans for you to worry about?

See I met half way, now we\'re both happy.

Well out of all of the points in the WCS (Worst Case Senario)  
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The aggressive foreign policy worry\'s me, that is if we are going down the same road as the last few times.