Unhappy Democrats Need to Wait to Get Into Canada

No child left behind is SO bad for our education system. A bit off topic but I saw you mention it so I decided to throw that out there.

^^^ I agree with BS on that one, but I\'m just saying as a form of birth control it just seems stupid to me. I do agree that all these children have it pretty tough and they probably shouldn\'t have been born, so I agree there, but as a form of birth control, and some of these women having 3-5 of them and then getting pregnant again is what makes me angry. If you do it and it teaches you a lesson to not run around and get knocked up every 3-5 months then its a good thing but rarely does that probably happen.

I have a problem with telling women to have a baby. Something just doesn\'t click you know?

But telling that same woman that she has the right to commit murder without suffering any consiquences does click in your mind?

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Originally posted by cloud345
But telling that same woman that she has the right to commit murder without suffering any consiquences does click in your mind?

it\'s her body..nobody has a right to tell them what to do with it...keep in mind it\'s not healthy for a woman to have an abortion,..if she wants to have 40-60..she\'s only hurting herself in the long run..and there\'s always that possibility of death..no-matter how small the percentage is it\'s there...

hell what do you say to that pregnant woman that wants to keep they\'re baby, but they\'re smokin or doin drugs? surely the unborn is being affected in some manner,..yet do you propose that gov\'t take action against that individual?

I just can\'t agree with your whole mindset on it Ryu.  You say how the adoption process and everything is so bad.  Well like mjps said, it shouldn\'t be a form of birth control.  Then maybe instead of all these babies going into terrible lives people will think and not risk it in the first place if they aren\'t ready.

Bozco, I doubt many people, if any have sex and say "Oh well, if i get pregnant ill just get an expensive abortion, that will make me feel guilty for the rest of my life!"

But it\'s always in the back of their head.

I just can\'t agree with your whole mindset on it Ryu. You say how the adoption process and everything is so bad. Well like mjps said, it shouldn\'t be a form of birth control. Then maybe instead of all these babies going into terrible lives people will think and not risk it in the first place if they aren\'t ready.

See, now you\'re just placing blame on the immediate problem without thinking about the longterm consequences.  Yes, people will wise up, but how many kids will be born before they do?  You think that\'s perfectly fine so long as the people giving birth "learn their lesson"?  I can\'t even fathom how backwards that is.  Regardless, people will NOT stop having sex and new kids will be born and put into the system.  Mothers will give birth, the kids will be given up for adoption, and the cycle will just repeat itself hundreds of times over.  It just doesn\'t make any sense.

I can\'t fathom how it somehow got to the point of abortion being a way to duck out of everything.

Im just saying that if someone murders a pregnant woman and it\'s considered double murder, why is it not considered murder when the mother aborts the baby?

As for the smoking or doing drugs part, the woman who wants the baby knows she could be inflicting harm on the baby, but she isn\'t doing it purpously. The government can;t do anything for a woman accidently making a child born with defects. An animal could knock over a woman thats pregnant but theyre not going to put the kill the animal for doing that.

How did a conversation on democrats going to Canada turn into abortion?

Well its fine that to have sex, so be it, the thing is using some sort of contraceptive is a must, I guarantee you almost 99% of the reasons someone gets pregnant unexpectedly they weren\'t using a form of birth control. Now if you were and you did everything to prevent it then I could see having an abortion. But to sit here and tell me and others that we don\'t look at long term effects of things, well abortions being legal leaves it up to people to go out and freely stick there wangs and have sex without contraceptive thinking hey shit, thats right abortions legal.

Triple Post ^^^ Yea me and Ryu and boz are having a nice thread about it in the mandate thread, why not merge the threads.

Why not keep it on topic?  I will merge it this time...

The thread had ran its course, we just opened it to another avenue.