Brawl in Sterling Heights

Originally posted by videoholic
Fans pay money to come to the arena and yell at the players.

They can yell all they want. They can NOT throw shit at the players.

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Originally posted by videoholic
I would have beaten the crap out of some guy in the stands?

I\'m a multimillion dollar guy who gets paid to throw a ball in a hoop and it\'s ok to beat the crap out of some guy who pays my salary?

You\'ve probably said more retarded things in the past, but it may take a while to find it.

Fans pay money to come to the arena and yell at the players.  If they can\'t handle it then they don\'t need to cash the checks.

tru Vid, but they don\'t need s**t thrown at them...pop s**t all you want, but once you physically touch that person...you\'re on your own...

off topic but true..there was a wwe event in which the rock and jericho was talkin s**t in the ring with jericho bein the "heel" now some lunatic fan jumps the apron and jumps into the ring and comes straight after jericho...so the rock and jericho beat the s**t out of him..and afterwards laughed about it (it was edited of course but it happened)....very similiar scenario...

[videoholic]

I realize the fans went over the line, but it\'s a freaking cup.  That would not make me jump into the stands and pound people.

ESPECIALLY if it was my JOB to entertain the people I am beating up.

That isn\'t too entertaining.

These guys get paid to be on the court, not in the stands.  THe fan over stepped his bounds, but you know what, there are freaking cops for that shit.

Originally posted by videoholic

You\'ve probably said more retarded things in the past, but it may take a while to find it.
 

Vid, go with your arguement, don\'t take some cheap shot at me.  

......you\'ve probably said more retarded things in thep ast, but it may take a while to find it :rolleyes:

Really though, what put some of you on your high horses here?  I really wanna know why you think you\'re so special.

Maybe it\'s becuase he\'s a Gators fan...oh wait...

Speaking of Cheap Shots

See Yuz.

Anyone who doesn\'t think this thing is the fans fault...I don\'t know what that says for you as sports fans.  If someone comes to your job and throws a cup bull of beer at you from a decent distance, tell me you wouldn\'t react.  They\'re entertainers, but that doesn\'t mean they aren\'t people.  Anyone would react the same way, and if they wouldn\'t, I don\'t know what that says about them.

Let\'s say you\'re doing a job where you\'re purpose is entertainment and someone singles you out and attacks you physically (yes, that\'s what throwing something at someone the way that fan did was).  Not only that, but they do it while you\'re off your guard, actually lying down, after just maturely avoiding another conflict where someone else attacked you.  What do you do?  You damn well better bet you fight back.


I am so ****ing sick of these whiny ass fans saying the problem with everything sports related is the players.  Or the owners.  You know what 99.9% of every sports related problem is thanks to?  The sorry ass sports fans that exist today.  Those whiny people who don\'t understand how good they have it.  Who are spoiled, in all honesty, and who feel they can treat the players in a sub human way.  The fans who don\'t come to games but expect the teams to shell out money to improve.  The fans who go to a game but are too preoccupied to support their team while there.  The fans that leave a team the second something turns south.  **** em all.  You want a solution to the problems you see in sports today?  Remember that the athletes are humans too, cause I\'m sick and tired of people who act like they aren\'t and hold them to different standards, and know your role as a fan.

As for pressing charges, I honestly think that Artest should be the one pressing charges on the fans.  They attacked him first, he was reacting.  This same scenario happens on the street, it\'s self defense.  ESPECIALLY with that dumb ass fan who came onto the court to confront Artest and then got clocked by O\'Neal.  That man shouldn\'t be allowed in an arena ever again.

Hell, look at how it already is.  The franchise is ruined for the season, he players lose millions upon millions of dollars and playing time, and the fans punishment, when most people will tell you they are the ones at fault...nothing.  There is something wrong with this picture.

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Originally posted by Bozco
Vid, go with your arguement, don\'t take some cheap shot at me.  

......you\'ve probably said more retarded things in thep ast, but it may take a while to find it :rolleyes:

Really though, what put some of you on your high horses here?  I really wanna know why you think you\'re so special.

It is some kind of virus going around on the boards. Started with MM, slowly went to Ooseven, infested me and now Vid. The only difference is, I am special and I am usually right, where as the other three just like to talk out of their rear ends.

Here\'s my cheap shot, and summary of the whole situation.

Men+beer=idiots.  Not to mention wasting a $6 cup of beer.  Room-temperature cheap keg beer.  The fan is an idiot.  Artest is an idiot.  Sounds to me like we\'re just trying to figure out who the bigger idiot is.

Its funny too cuz the guy said he was trying to pull Artest off the guy who didn\'t throw it, but 5 seconds later hes throwing punches at Artests back. I agree with Shocky and BS on this one, fans need to behave, whats wrong with people today, shit.

Originally posted by shockwaves
Anyone who doesn\'t think this thing is the fans fault...I don\'t know what that says for you as sports fans.  If someone comes to your job and throws a cup bull of beer at you from a decent distance, tell me you wouldn\'t react.  They\'re entertainers, but that doesn\'t mean they aren\'t people.  Anyone would react the same way, and if they wouldn\'t, I don\'t know what that says about them.

Let\'s say you\'re doing a job where you\'re purpose is entertainment and someone singles you out and attacks you physically (yes, that\'s what throwing something at someone the way that fan did was).  Not only that, but they do it while you\'re off your guard, actually lying down, after just maturely avoiding another conflict where someone else attacked you.  What do you do?  You damn well better bet you fight back.


I am so ****ing sick of these whiny ass fans saying the problem with everything sports related is the players.  Or the owners.  You know what 99.9% of every sports related problem is thanks to?  The sorry ass sports fans that exist today.  Those whiny people who don\'t understand how good they have it.  Who are spoiled, in all honesty, and who feel they can treat the players in a sub human way.  The fans who don\'t come to games but expect the teams to shell out money to improve.  The fans who go to a game but are too preoccupied to support their team while there.  The fans that leave a team the second something turns south.  **** em all.  You want a solution to the problems you see in sports today?  Remember that the athletes are humans too, cause I\'m sick and tired of people who act like they aren\'t and hold them to different standards, and know your role as a fan.

As for pressing charges, I honestly think that Artest should be the one pressing charges on the fans.  They attacked him first, he was reacting.  This same scenario happens on the street, it\'s self defense.  ESPECIALLY with that dumb ass fan who came onto the court to confront Artest and then got clocked by O\'Neal.  That man shouldn\'t be allowed in an arena ever again.

Hell, look at how it already is.  The franchise is ruined for the season, he players lose millions upon millions of dollars and playing time, and the fans punishment, when most people will tell you they are the ones at fault...nothing.  There is something wrong with this picture.

Well the players are held to a higher standard than the fans. I mean 1 out of billion kids gets a chance to become a pro athelete. For a player like Ron Artest to show no self-control at all is just rediculous.  The NBA is a league that must set an example. You can\'t have players  representing the league doing crazy shit like Ron Artest did.

This situation is foolish anyway you put it. The paper cup wasn\'t thrown on me but I have had worst happen to me in the street\'s where anything goes and I chose to be the responsible adult and handle the situation propper. So please don\'t group everyone under the same chatagory as Ron Artest.

I have been in horrible situations on a job where I should have whipped someones ass but instead did the right thing and handle it properly.  

And your trying to justify the actions of a pro athelete?

One thing is for sure, the Pacers are screwed over,  I dont know if they will even make the playoffs. They were dealt about 20 losses just from those suspensions.

Originally posted by QuDDus
I mean 1 out of billion kids gets a chance to become a pro athelete.

Only 8 athletes?

I thought there was only about 6 billion people?  Shock put it exactly how I would\'ve put it if I was a little more relaxed than I was at the moment I posted my rant.

[videoholic]

Originally posted by QuDDus
Well the players are held to a higher standard than the fans. I mean 1 out of billion kids gets a chance to become a pro athelete. For a player like Ron Artest to show no self-control at all is just rediculous.  The NBA is a league that must set an example. You can\'t have players  representing the league doing crazy shit like Ron Artest did.

This situation is foolish anyway you put it. The paper cup wasn\'t thrown on me but I have had worst happen to me in the street\'s where anything goes and I chose to be the responsible adult and handle the situation propper. So please don\'t group everyone under the same chatagory as Ron Artest.

I have been in horrible situations on a job where I should have whipped someones ass but instead did the right thing and handle it properly.  

And your trying to justify the actions of a pro athelete?

Wow.  I agree with Quddus?

What\'s the date?

Originally posted by QuDDus
Well the players are held to a higher standard than the fans. I mean 1 out of billion kids gets a chance to become a pro athelete. For a player like Ron Artest to show no self-control at all is just rediculous.  The NBA is a league that must set an example. You can\'t have players  representing the league doing crazy shit like Ron Artest did.

First of all, Ron Artest started the whole thing out surprisingly maturely.  Wallace shoves him, he just backs out and gets as far out of the fight as possible.  It was the fans who started the immature behavior.  And I don\'t see why an athlete should be expected to be any better than any other human.  We\'re all people, shouldn\'t we all have to live up to the same basic standards?

This situation is foolish anyway you put it. The paper cup wasn\'t thrown on me but I have had worst happen to me in the street\'s where anything goes and I chose to be the responsible adult and handle the situation propper. So please don\'t group everyone under the same chatagory as Ron Artest.

First of all, it was a full cup, thrown from several rows up, pretty high in the air.  That shit will hurt, as well as spilling all over you.  And I don\'t know you, but I know that the vast majority of people, in the moment, are gonna react at least in some way to that.

I have been in horrible situations on a job where I should have whipped someones ass but instead did the right thing and handle it properly.  

And your trying to justify the actions of a pro athelete?

Yes, I\'m trying to justify them, to an extent.  What happened there is assault, by the fan.  Either way, I\'m not saying that what Artest did was necessarily the right thing to do, but I\'m saying the fan is more at fault than he is.  Artest had the right to react in that situation.  If you ask me, the fans got what was comming to them.  Especially that idiot fan that walked onto the court to confront Artest.  And the fact is, these players lose millions, and are out of a job for a long time, while the fans could be back at the next night\'s game.  That isn\'t right.