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« on: January 30, 2005, 05:52:57 PM »
I have a PS2 and I wanna play it on my computer screen and crap. Any Ideas? Help.

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« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2005, 06:31:43 PM »
why would you want to do that?

If you wanted to, just get a component video cable and connect to your analog or digital tv with component video input to get the best picture quality possible out of your ps2.  for dvd playback, the ps2 did a so-so job, for videogames, i guess it will look great via component...

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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2005, 12:05:11 AM »
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why would you want to do that?
Very helpful, nimrod.

There are many devices available that allow you to do this.  Here is one:

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/vb50hrtv/
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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2005, 01:02:10 AM »
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Very helpful, nimrod.

There are many devices available that allow you to do this.  Here is one:

http://www.viewsonic.com/products/accessories/tvvideoprocessors/vb50hrtv/


first, i didn\'t know what nimrod meant.  So i looked it up on dictionary.com and it means:

nimrod:

Informal. A person regarded as silly, foolish, or stupid.

How rude of you.:bounce:
And looks who is talking.  The link you posted on support s-video and composite video input.  No component video input, although it does have RGB input which i believe its VGA.  But, PS2 don\'t support VGA.

So, you are better of using component video input for analog tv or better use hdtv with component video input.  In my opinion, its better and easier.  Many HDTV support 480p, and you can enable ps2 games progressive scan such as 480p or uses the tv progressive scan if the game doesn\'t support it.

Also, ps2 supports videogames playback.  Their later models support 480p for dvd movies too.  But I doubt the ps2 does a good job at 3-2 pulldown since its major is more of videogames than movies.

So disabling the ps2 progressive scan for dvd playback and using the hdtv progressive scan make sense if the tv internal deintelacer does a better job at 3-2 pulldown than ps2.  But again, i don\'t know how well the ps2 progressive for 3-2 pulldown is.

Beside, if you really wanted to hook it up to a computer monitor.

Buy a cable that have the "PS2 AV multi out" and RGB VGA IN.  A direct feed, no need for conversion from Composite, S-Video, or component...Also, remember to switch to from component to RGB on the ps2 main menu.

Sometimes this cable have the adapter where you can connect analog audio in for sound so you canuse  the PC speakers...

I can see complication like what about the PC?  If you hook up the ps2 to the computer monitor, what about the computer itself?  meaning, you have to switch back and forth when you want to use the pc or the ps2...

So, again, in my opinion, hooking up the ps2 to your SDTV via component (if your tv have one) is good enough even though its only interlaced or using the s-video cable gives out pretty decent picture and it seperate the color and say good bye to color smear...
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« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2005, 01:16:54 AM »
http://www.coolpc.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=143&products_id=752&osCsid=98b651697a2af9bf60a74b9cfcb3af8b




thats all you\'ll need. Get a VGA Switch box if you don\'t wanna screw around with unplugging your monitor from the adapter all the time.

I\'ve ordered one and they\'re out of stock. When i finally get it i\'ll tell you how well it works.
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« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2005, 01:53:14 AM »
that cable convertor in my opinion is better than the one cored suggested because its a direct feed for video.

But I also notice three RCA jacks on the side, not sure what is it for.

But again, what about sound?  Usually PC speakers uses their 1/8" dual mini plug.

And again, getting a VGA switchbox can  be a good idea if you don\'t want to switch around...

But if you don\'t mind all that, I think its maybe worth it.

Personally, i say go TV with component video inputs and HDTV (widescreen)...you go tv!!!:bounce:    :dance:

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« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2005, 01:19:10 PM »
If you notice you can use the converter rca jacks for sound, it has the L/R outputs on it.  I personally have my ps2 setup to my 5500D system via optical.
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« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2005, 10:14:54 PM »
The guy asked a simple question.  Why not answer the simple question like soulgrind and I did, instead of all the BS?   I can imagine what would happen if someone came to you asking for the nearest gas station.  You\'d reply "Why do you want to buy gasoline?  You should be taking a helicopter instead of driving that car!"  :rolleyes:

Maybe his priority is not quality, but convenience.
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« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2005, 10:48:42 PM »
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The guy asked a simple question.  Why not answer the simple question like soulgrind and I did, instead of all the BS?   I can imagine what would happen if someone came to you asking for the nearest gas station.  You\'d reply "Why do you want to buy gasoline?  You should be taking a helicopter instead of driving that car!"  :rolleyes:
 

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I did gave him a simple answer on my very first post of what I think its simple, by just connecting to the TV with component video instead of the computer monitor.  Then you chime in later and said I am nimrod and said there are many devices that allow him to do that and you suggested him a link  that require an external box that lack Component video input or direct feed of PS2 mulit video out to RGB VGA.

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Maybe his priority is not quality, but convenience.


Looks who is talking again, its like you are being a hyprocrite there.

Let me points out something here:

Why would someone bother to find a way to connect to a PC monitor say that is about 19"  instead of straight to a TV say that is 27"?

Its because Computer Monitor picture quality is definately better than SDTV, such as much more higher resolution, 24 bits RGB, and non interlaced (progressive scan) than can go higher than 60 Hz....

So, for a person to do that, he\'s most likely want picture quality.

And not sure if you understand or not, but connect  ps2 to a PC monitor isn\'t convenience.

You can say connecting a ps2 to a tv is convenient and quality is not his priority there.  But not to a pc monitor.  Especially your method requires conversion and external box and adapter...

While soulgrind method is much more simplify and convenient than your method Cored.  by just connecting a direct feed video cable that doesn\'t require external box or video conversion.  And hence, not to mention better picture quality too since the cable is RGB and ps2 supports RGB too, its just that you need to find a cable that does that.

You probably thought getting best picture quality require an external box or more complex connection while that\'s not really the case, more often than not.  And thus more complex connection and stuff can be messy and inconvienent than direct feed.

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« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2005, 02:26:28 AM »
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Why would someone bother to find a way to connect to a PC monitor say that is about 19"  instead of straight to a TV say that is 27"?


I\'ll start with not every TV supports component...
I\'m going to my pc monitor simply because i have my ps2 networked with my pc. I find it much easier to have my ps2 and my pc together, using the optical input on my digital system for ps2, while my pc uses the coax.
I just switch over to whatever i\'m using on my receiver.  I\'m using the RCA jack on my capture card to see my ps2. Which means my pc has to be on, which isn\'t convenient for me. I\'ll use that adapter i posted and a VGA switch box, which means i can run my ps2 without the need for my pc being on at better quality.

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And not sure if you understand or not, but connect  ps2 to a PC monitor isn\'t convenience.
 Not for you, but for people like me, its far more convenient then running Crossover cables all over my room. I hit 2 birds with 1 stone, better pic quality and Network support.

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You probably thought getting best picture quality require an external box or more complex connection while that\'s not really the case, more often than not.  And thus more complex connection and stuff can be messy and inconvienent than direct feed.


well, my adapter doesn\'t get any more direct ehh ;)
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« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2005, 03:11:35 AM »
the adapter you posted above uses the ps2 multi av out that have RGB pins to the VGA RGB pins and that\'s pretty much a direct feed to me.  You can say there is a conversion, but its still RGB nonetheless.  The ps2 RGB pins rearrange the wires to the VGA RGB pins...I am pretty sure of that...

You can say component video have conversion too, since videogames are RGB, it then converted to Y Pb Pr for tv.

I uses the composite video PS2 cable for my tv since my tv lack s-video or component video.  The ps2 multi out convert RGB to Y Pb Pr and downconvert Y Pb Pr to composite which is mostly Y.  I am sticking up to that unless someone can prove me wrong.

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« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2005, 03:22:18 AM »
ehh, so you\'re using the ps2 standard composite cable to your tv, because it doesn\'t support component or s-video?



if so, you\'re losing a lot of quality.
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« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2005, 03:28:51 AM »
My 20" Sony TV only have composite video inputs.  Two, one in back and one in front.  It doesn\'t have s-video or component video, unfortunatedly.  So, I uses the standard composite video cable that comes with the ps2 in the box.

The color may not stand out when compare to s-video, component, or RGB, not to mention color smear in some cases with high detail area.  But I have no other choice.

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« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2005, 03:33:07 AM »
Then why couldn\'t u understand that some people may want to use their monitors instead.  I personally don\'t see any problem. Its not like you sit directly in front of your tv. Otherwise you\'d probably see a lot of blur.
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« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2005, 03:36:24 AM »
Huh?  Explain what you mean.  You are losing me.

 

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