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North Korea Admits to Have REAL nukes
« on: February 10, 2005, 01:12:43 AM »
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/asiapcf/02/10/nkorea.talks/index.html

(CNN) -- Citing what it calls U.S. threats to topple its political system, North Korea said Thursday it is dropping out of six-party nuclear talks and will "bolster its nuclear weapons arsenal," North Korea\'s official news agency KCNA reported.

This is the first public claim by North Korea to actually possess nuclear weapons.

In the past, Pyongyang has claimed to have the ability and the right to produce them. U.S. officials said in April 2003 that North Korea claimed in private meetings to having at least one nuclear bomb.

"We have shown utmost magnanimity and patience for the past four years since the first Bush administration swore in," a statement from the North Korean Foreign Ministry said, according to KCNA.

"We cannot spend another four years as we did in the past four years and there is no need for us to repeat what we did in those years."

The United States, the two Koreas, China, Japan and Russia have held three rounds of six-party talks since 2003, aimed at persuading the North to abandon its nuclear weapons development in return for economic and diplomatic rewards.

But no significant progress was reported in those talks, all hosted by China, North Korea\'s last remaining major ally.

A fourth round of talks scheduled for last September did not take place because North Korea refused to attend, citing what it called a "hostile" U.S. policy.

Thursday\'s statement from the North Korean foreign ministry said the country\'s nuclear weapons are "for self-defense to cope with the Bush administration\'s evermore undisguised policy to isolate and stifle the DPRK (Democratic People\'s Republic of Korea)."

The communist state said it feels "compelled to suspend" participation in the six-nation talks "for an indefinite period."

"We have wanted the six-party talks but we are compelled to suspend our participation in the talks for an indefinite period till we have recognized that there is justification for us to attend the talks and there are ample conditions and atmosphere to expect positive results from the talks," the Foreign Ministry said.

"The U.S. disclosed its attempt to topple the political system in the DPRK at any cost, threatening it with a nuclear stick. This compels us to take a measure to bolster its nuclear weapons arsenal in order to protect the ideology, system, freedom and democracy chosen by the people in the DPRK.

In his inaugural address on January 20, U.S. President George W. Bush did not mention North Korea by name. But he said U.S. efforts have lit "a fire in the minds of men.

"It warms those who feel its power, it burns those who fight its progress and one day this untamed fire of freedom will reach the darkest corners of our world," he said.

In his February 2 State of the Union address, Bush only briefly mentioned North Korea, saying Washington was "working closely with governments in Asia to convince North Korea to abandon its nuclear ambitions."

Bush\'s tone was in stark contrast to his speech three years ago, when he branded North Korea part of an "axis of evil" with Iran and Iraq. It raised hopes for a positive response from North Korea.

Earlier this month, Bush and South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun agreed to push for an early resumption of the six-nation talks.

But Pyongyang called Bush\'s call for the spread of freedom in his January 20 inaugural speech as a diabolical U.S. scheme to turn the world into "a sea of war flames."

"In his inauguration speech, Bush trumpeted that \'fire of freedom will reach dark corners of the world.\' This is nothing but a plot to engulf the whole world in a sea of war flames and rule it by imposing a freedom based on power," North Korea\'s state-run Pyongyang Radio said early this month.

Despite pulling out of the six-nation nuclear talks and saying Thursday it will "bolster" its nuclear arsenal, the Foreign Ministry statement said North Korea\'s "principled stand to solve the issue through dialogue and negotiations and its ultimate goal to denuclearize the Korean Peninsula remain unchanged."

Sohn Jie-ae, CNN\'s Correspondent in the South Korean capital Seoul, said the possibility of North Korea returning to the talks could not be ruled out.

She said officials from the other countries involved would try to convince North Korea to reverse its decision.



So, should we still shrug off the threats as false or actually do something about it?
Don\'t try to confuse me with what you call  facts, my mind is already made up.

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2005, 04:48:28 AM »
Christ. Like this is surprising.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2005, 05:48:35 AM »
Isn\'t this about the 10th time they have admitted it?  I think this is our quarterly reminder from them.

Mystiq you whine about threatening Iran - but are all for recklessly running head first into North Korea who actually may HAVE nukes.  Do you have no critical thinking skills at all?
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2005, 09:19:01 AM »
look, we alls gunna die sometime... let\'s stop policing the world america
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2005, 03:55:06 PM »
FUCKING DUMBSHIT BUSH IS GOING TO GET US ALL KILLED! Clinton was wrapping up the NK problem nicely and Bush just layed it all to waste! And this hardass, rockballs, bitch Rice isn\'t helping! AAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!

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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2005, 05:45:45 PM »
Yeah Clinton had it under control :rolleyes:
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2005, 07:29:29 PM »
Clinton was providing the country various shit meanwhile they were still doing exactly what we didn\'t want them to.   But yea Clinton was doing amazing......

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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2005, 08:13:03 PM »
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Isn\'t this about the 10th time they have admitted it?  I think this is our quarterly reminder from them.

Mystiq you whine about threatening Iran - but are all for recklessly running head first into North Korea who actually may HAVE nukes.  Do you have no critical thinking skills at all?



Aren\'t you the one who supported the Iraq war and was "all for recklessly running head firt into" Iraq without actually knowing if they actually HAD nukes?

Actually, this is the FIRST TIME THEY SAID THEY HAVE ANY NUKES AT ALL!

Before they just shrugged it off. Now they withdraw from talks, call the US\' policy "hostile" and proclaim that they have some power and will continue to bolster their nuclear weapon armament because they see a threat in the US and will try to protect themselves.

Do you have a brain at all?


I haven\'t said ANYTHING about running "head first" into any country. I\'m just just shining light on REAL threats that we have no way of dealing with because we are so stretched out military wise.
« Last Edit: February 10, 2005, 08:15:29 PM by SirMystiq »
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2005, 09:50:47 PM »
Even if we weren\'t scretched out we\'d have no real way to deal with North Korea, not without hundreds of thousands in lost troops or dropping real bombs.  They\'re a military state with a blind hatred for the US.

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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2005, 11:34:59 PM »
Someone in N. Korea needs to kill Kim Jong-il...

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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2005, 04:59:17 AM »
Ah they are just showing off

Ignore them ...well until there is a large mushroom cloud over Japan or South Korea that is.


Remember lads we can’t engage them in military action because unlike Iraq and Afghanistan, they have a trained fanatic army and not mish mash army armmed with 3rd hand weapons circa 1950’s.

I mean what’s the satisfaction in Bombing some back to the stone game, if its going to cost us money and blood :rolleyes:.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2005, 05:05:36 AM »
Hell, even China is a little shaky about N. Korea.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2005, 05:10:05 AM »
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Hell, even China is a little shaky about N. Korea.


Whould YOU be if you lived next to them knut jobs ?

You know in NK "history"  they say that it was them who defeated Japan in WW2 and that one day they will finish the job off.

It would be like if Canada went all Fanatic Jihad on your Ass and actually...finally got round to developing a NUKE and Powered Air Flight to boot ;) :p.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2005, 05:29:39 AM »
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Aren\'t you the one who supported the Iraq war and was "all for recklessly running head firt into" Iraq without actually knowing if they actually HAD nukes?


We knew they did not have a nuke.

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Actually, this is the FIRST TIME THEY SAID THEY HAVE ANY NUKES AT ALL!

Before they just shrugged it off. Now they withdraw from talks, call the US\' policy "hostile" and proclaim that they have some power and will continue to bolster their nuclear weapon armament because they see a threat in the US and will try to protect themselves.


We have known they have had at least nuke for about the past 15 or so years.  Do you not keep up with current events?  They have had a hositle policy towards us and vice versa since the end of the Korean War.  They are using the guise of protection as a reason to develop nuclear weapons.  We do not have the manpower at this time to launch a conventional war with North Korea and occupy it.  They know this, we know this.  Stop trying to make excuses for them.


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I haven\'t said ANYTHING about running "head first" into any country. I\'m just just shining light on REAL threats that we have no way of dealing with because we are so stretched out military wise.


Even if we weren\'t in Iraq - we couldn\'t wage a conventional war with North Korea without serious losses and the high risk of them using non conventional weapons which would effect their neighbors.  Haven\'t I said this at least 3 times in this forum?  Is this something you can\'t seem to grasp?  N. Korea will do anything including using nukes on neighboring countries if they were invaded.  This is why I believe you make these wild claims without any consideration to the consequences that will come out of them.
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2005, 05:45:13 AM »
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Whould YOU be if you lived next to them knut jobs ?

You know in NK "history"  they say that it was them who defeated Japan in WW2 and that one day they will finish the job off.

It would be like if Canada went all Fanatic Jihad on your Ass and actually...finally got round to developing a NUKE and Powered Air Flight to boot ;) :p.


My point is, China is their ally! And China needs the US more than they need N. Korea.
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