Originally posted by GmanJoe
Does not necessarily mean that there were no intentions? Building new war planes? New warships? Investing a billion dollars into the atomic bomb? Helping the allies soften up Germany?
It\'s meddling if you\'re a Nazi. You have no real argument, do you?
Sending US Warships into a naval warzone, getting sunk by u-boats....your argument is extremely weak.
Not in your history books? Then you aren\'t reading enough, chico. Your definition of meddling is incorrect. They were asked to send war supplies. They were asked to join the war against the Nazis. Your teachers would laugh at you.
Oh my....I made a grammatical error. WHOOPDIE! Breakout the tacos! You get 1 point. The rest of your comments and previous posts are all wrong. Why even consider them?
You realize no one here will support your theory about the US meddling in WW2 and Israel being a puppet.
I pointed out to you that your idea of meddle and puppet state were wrong. So you turn around and say "oops. Well, THEY\'RE MY DEFITNION!"
You are one ignorant Mexican.
Well, I went over my notes for you Gman. After a year of haven taken the class. So, I also borrowed a copy from my US history book. There are something I noticed:
1.) The allies never "asked" the US for anything. It was Roosevelt and his friends that were the primary supporters for the lifting of the Neutrality Act. In fact, all of the embargos placed by the act covered civil wars. Furthermore, Britain, France and the US were fearful of a war so they all adopted policicies of noninvolvement. French and Britain met with Hitler in order to surrender the land he wanted in promise he would not attack. He did.
2.) They were never asked to join the war. Once again, we can thank Roosevelt and his people for trying to mobilize public opinion against Congress\' Neutrality Act. In favor of "measures of war" that would help the allies fight against the Axis.
Americans wanted strict neutrality and everybody was for it. Japan launched an attack on China. The US and Britain got together to prepare for a possible war in Asia. When Germany and Italy agreed to help each other out, and Hitler said he wanted to conquer a part of Sudetenland, Roosevelt followed by anouncing a program for a complete rearmament of the navy beyond some treaty they had with Japan.
The US itself lifted bans that would allow the army to sell arms to belligerents-it was called "cash-and-carry" because the country had to transport its own loot. And because you know so much, you know what two countries obviously benefited from this the most.
When Germany bombed London, Americans were sent into a state of shock. It was taken advantage by Roosevelt who moved ahead with his "destroyers-for-bases"
The A-Bomb was pushed by Mr. Einstein toward the end of the war. Many think the two bombs dropped were merely for demonstration of might, others that it was necessary.
Also about your naval comment. Roosevelt was secretly hoping for a provocative attack by Germany. The use of attack ships by the US was proposed by Churchill, to insure safe deliverance. As it so happens, Germany sunk a US destroyer and this helped Roosevelt prove a point and repealed the Neutrality Act. So, the use of the attack ships could have, and probably were, merely a bait in order to help strengthen the joining of the US in the war.
So in essence you\'re correct. The US did not "meddle" at the beginning, that is until Roosevelt pushed for the joining in the war. It suddenly became a plausible option when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor. I say we "meddled" because we supplied arms by slowly breaking a part the Neutrality Act.
Israel would not be such a big hit without the millions of dollars of help of the US. I do recall, by the way, saying that I knew my use of the word "puppet" state is wrong. But that doesn\'t matter to you right. Well, I don\'t know about you, but a millionaire gave me money continuously over others to buy houses, cars, guns and maybe some private jets. I would think that I would try to please the millionaire. So, it might not be as strong as in a real puppet state, but influence and "puppeteering" is more than likely there.
Whoopdie?
