Media-Create Numbers March 28th - April 3rd

Originally posted by Unicron!
I can quarantee you that some people that cant afford a PSP can afford a DS

You are missing my point.  People are not going to pay for an over-priced DS any sooner than they\'ll pay for an over-priced PSP.  It\'s about what the consumer is willing to spend for the handheld in question.

It is still overpriced as a handheld.The PSP is viewed mainly as a games device that can do something more.As a newly launched powerful handheld hardware its normal to cost so much.For what it offers as a handheld the consumer doesnt feel like paying $300 or $40/$50 for handheld software.And they are forced to pay more for a value pack.Not enough options.

Says you, however I agree.  Over a million sales worldwide says the PSP is competitively priced for what it offers.

Originally posted by Rikku
You are missing my point.  People are not going to pay for an over-priced DS any sooner than they\'ll pay for an over-priced PSP.  It\'s about what the consumer is willing to spend for the handheld in question.

and you are missing MY point.The consumer is willing to pay for a games handheld.The quality of games the PSP offers and the games the DS offers are at the similar level.Other features come secondary.A gamer has to decide.Do I want to pay less and have good games but not extra features?Or pay a lot lot more and have a similar quality gaming experience with extra secondary features?
PSP consumes more from the consumer\'s income than what the DS does

 

Says you, however I agree.  Over a million sales worldwide says the PSP is competitively priced for what it offers.

That means that the PSP is good enough to gain high sales despite the high cost.It describes how good the PSP is.However that also means that if a million consumers are willing to pay so much for it a lot lot more would have been willing to buy a PSP if it was a bit cheaper.Not necessarilly as cheap as the DS.

you guys suck at arguing consoles

i mean it

Originally posted by Unicron!
It is still overpriced as a handheld.The PSP is viewed mainly as a games device that can do something more.As a newly launched powerful handheld hardware its normal to cost so much.For what it offers as a handheld the consumer doesnt feel like paying $300 or $40/$50 for handheld software.And they are forced to pay more for a value pack.Not enough options for the consumer.When the price drops a bit sales will boost signifigantly even if its still more expensive than the DS.At this point the price prevents it.We arent talking about small difference in price.We are talking about double the price.I agree that the PSP should be more expensive.But at this point it is more expensive than what the consumer can handle.

It may be overpriced as a handheld but it is not just a handheld. It is a gaming device, an mp3 player, a dv player, etc. For all of that it is NOT overpriced.

YOU may view it primarily as a gaming device but Sony is advertising it otherwise. They know the extreme price difference between the PSP and DS so they are going out of their way to advertise the PSP as an all-in-one handheld.

Jesus.You didnt say something I didnt already say or know.I am NOT expecting it to be as expensive as DS.I realise that its normal to cost more.
 But this doesnt mean that a certain price point doesnt affect the consumer\'s choice.Even if it had rocket launchers and costed $10000 and everyone wanted a handheld with rocket launchers badly it doesnt mean that they were going to buy it.
  It consumes a more signifigant amount from the consumer\'s income.And its also much more expensive not just because it offers more.Its also more expensive because its the first handheld to offer these and be so powerful.New kind of product=temporarily more expensive until its established in the market.
 Its normal that at a certain price even if a consumer wants the product that costs very much for its offerings,he will pull back.
 It doesnt matter how Sony is advertising it.Thats irrelevant.PS2 was also being presented as a computer entertainment system that was supposed to do so much more.
 Advertising is advertising. Sony realises that its very expensive and exactly what I ve described above.Advertising is never 100% honest anyways.Advertisings are exaggerating to sell and justify a product.
 The point is that this current price affects PSP\'s sales and the consumer\'s will to buy it, justified price or not.
 It\'s at a level where the consumer reconsiders buying one even if he wants it and understands that it costs more because of its offerings.
 These forums have the facts to show this.

But the same thing can be said for the DS!  Here:

I\'d sooner pay $200 for a PSP than I would $150 for a DS.

Seriously think about that before you reply.

The DS is not selling because it is a cheap alternative, it\'s selling itself and that\'s what I\'m surprised with.  The DS might be in a more accessible price range however that depends who you talk to.  Also, the fact that DS is touch screen throws a wrench into your idea that it offers a similar experience to the PSP.

The PSP is marketed as more than a games device, and those were Sony\'s intentions from the get go.  They even said it themselves, "we\'re going after the iPod crowd", or something to that effect.  Now, if you were to talk to the "iPod crowd" they\'d probably tell you that PSP is a steal for what it offers.  That\'s my opinion anyway.

I\'m through in here.

Ok I ll make it simpler with a different stromger example.Almost anyone loves the idea of owning a Porsche, a Lamborghini or a Ferrari.Yet you ll see more cheap Mazdas or Mitsubishis on the road and rarely a ferrari or a Lamborghini or a Porsche.

The amount of sales the PSP reached despite that they are less than the DS it is no indication that the DS has outsold or succeeded more than the PSP.

wtf is a Laborgini ?

=m&m

That\'s a very poor analogy.

You\'ve managed to finally get what it is I never said.  Congratulations.

Thats what you say.Basically what you are expecting me to say is that DS succeeded better than PSP no matter what.Well it didnt

Originally posted by Unicron!
what you are expecting me to say is that DS succeeded better than PSP no matter what.Well it didnt

Going by the numbers provided, in what ways DIDN\'T the DS show more success than the PSP?

Success is measured in units sold and money earned not in how many people want one.

I dont know.You tell me.Rikku said PSP is marketed as more than a games device and DS is marketed as a games device.There is no direct cmpetition.Is it?

Originally posted by Unicron!
Thats what you say.Basically what you are expecting me to say is that DS succeeded better than PSP no matter what.Well it didnt

That\'s not it at all.

I\'ve mentioned it several times now, but I\'ll do it once more.  The DS, despite being in the presence of more powerful and capable hardware, and perhaps a little gimmicky, is managing to carve out a niche for itself.

Originally posted by Unicron!
I dont know.You tell me.Rikku said PSP is marketed as more than a games device and DS is marketed as a games device.There is no direct cmpetition.Is it?

Why wouldn\'t there be direct competition? The PSP is competition for the DS, GBA, iPod, Palm etc. It is direct competition to the DS because they share shelf space.