The US Needs a National, Universal Healthcare coverage plan

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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Avatarr read Core\'s post.  He is saying unemployment would go down with National Healthcare - I see the opposite.  Why work full time - which is required to get health insurance in most cases - when you can work part time and get the same benefit?  One of the main benefits from having a full time job is the health care.  

I also don\'t like the fact that my money would be used to support those who don\'t work or don\'t want to work.  I prefer to pay for my healthcare and after all you get what you pay for.  As Gman said, this country has nearly 300 million people in it, if healthcare was free going into see the doctor would be an ordeal.  As of now if I have a problem like an upper respiratory infection I can get in the same day and it only takes 20 minutes.  

Health care is not a universal right for those not willing to work for it.  This is capitalism and yes it is a business.  The population of this country alone would hinder any attempt at universal healthcare being efficient.  Furthermore, some in my generation and most in this younger generation expect everthing for free and sorry, but that is not how things work.  If you don\'t have healthcare, get off your ass, go find a full time job and work like most Americans do.

Lastly, I agree medical costs are too high and I do agree something should be done about making it more affordable, but that is another discussion.

wow...i know a lot of the times we\'re on the opposite side of the spectrum, but i agree 100% here. unemployment would not decrease as a result of a universal healthcare system...you have companies even today making record profits, yet they turn around and still layoff employees. i also agree with thx..in a perfect world universal healthcare would work...but we all know the true reality of the world we live in...

Meh, Australia has a universal health care system and our unemployoment rate is lower than the USA\'s. Is it because we have almost 1/11th your population? No, it\'s because we don\'t have morons who think that "I\'m the shit and everyone else is just trying to get a free ride from my tax dollars."

I mean if you considered what you\'d do if you didn\'t have to worry about your health care costs, do you think YOU would work less? Your answer would be NO, but you\'d probably ask "what about other people who I think are lazy fuckers who are only out to get a free ride from my tax dollars?" NEWSFLASH: Chances are they\'d think the same way you do and probably work harder than you do.

I guess that\'s the problem for The United States of Stupidity. No confidence in their fellow citizens.

Originally posted by Avatarr
Meh, Australia has a universal health care system and our unemployoment rate is lower than the USA\'s. Is it because we have almost 1/11th your population? No, it\'s because we don\'t have morons who think that "I\'m the shit and everyone else is just trying to get a free ride from my tax dollars."

I mean if you considered what you\'d do if you didn\'t have to worry about your health care costs, do you think YOU would work less? Your answer would be NO, but you\'d probably ask "what about other people who I think are lazy fuckers who are only out to get a free ride from my tax dollars?" NEWSFLASH: Chances are they\'d think the same way you do and probably work harder than you do.

I guess that\'s the problem for The United States of Stupidity. No confidence in their fellow citizens.

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Hey Avy before you go criticizing a whole country check out the hell hole you live, I mean to seriously call the United States stupid you\'re going to piss quite a few people off mate, besides your country is based on convicts:p

Originally posted by Avatarr
Meh, Australia has a universal health care system and our unemployoment rate is lower than the USA\'s. Is it because we have almost 1/11th your population? No, it\'s because we don\'t have morons who think that "I\'m the shit and everyone else is just trying to get a free ride from my tax dollars."

I guess that\'s the problem for The United States of Stupidity.

Sorry Avatarr, but everybodys looking for a free ride.  It has nothing to do with "being the shit" and everything to do with sustaining yourself, not others.  

Also, learn to articulate, instead of calling people stupid.  Maybe if you went to one of the States top Universities you\'d be able to I guess. *shrugs*

I mean if you considered what you\'d do if you didn\'t have to worry about your health care costs, do you think YOU would work less? Your answer would be NO, but you\'d probably ask "what about other people who I think are lazy fuckers who are only out to get a free ride from my tax dollars?" NEWSFLASH: Chances are they\'d think the same way you do and probably work harder than you do.

Originally posted by Avatarr


I mean if you considered what you\'d do if you didn\'t have to worry about your health care costs, do you think YOU would work less? Your answer would be NO, but you\'d probably ask "what about other people who I think are lazy fuckers who are only out to get a free ride from my tax dollars?" NEWSFLASH: Chances are they\'d think the same way you do and probably work harder than you do.

No

dumb. you.

me. give up.

Originally posted by Avatarr
dumb. you.

me. give up.

Harvard and Yale must be banging down your doors to have you as a student on their debate team.

USA USA USA USA!!!!

Healthcare needs to work as a business so it can progress.  Competition is good.  Do you want to pay the $500 fee for eye surgery with the Doc who has the crappy laser or $2k for the guy who has the latest Lasic tech?  Good news is it\'s up to you.  If it was up to the government you better believe quality will suffer to answer public outcry of higher taxes.

meh, all I\'m saying is it works here. it\'s painfully clear that it would never work there because people .... think differently.

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Originally posted by Avatarr
meh, all I\'m saying is it works here. it\'s painfully clear that it would never work there because people .... think differently.

It won\'t work here coz we have 150 million fat people. Another 150 million that are kids, too old, healthy average types, illegals...etc.

[Living-In-Clip]

Let\'s be blunt about this.
Most American\'s are worthless and that is why it won\'t work. Why hold back? Just say it with me.

Most American\'s are worthless creatures..

There ya\' go! Feel better?

I only wanted to settle for \'stupid\'.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Originally posted by mjps21983
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Hey Avy before you go criticizing a whole country check out the hell hole you live, I mean to seriously call the United States stupid you\'re going to piss quite a few people off mate, besides your country is based on convicts:p

Holy hell, and to think I was about to call avatarr the most idiotic poster in this thread...

Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Holy hell, and to think I was about to call avatarr the most idiotic poster in this thread...

He still is and I agree with LIC for once, there sure as hell are a lot of worthless people in this country.

Well we do have quite a few people like Miss tiq and Ghettomath.  So yeah I have to agree with LIC.