World of Warcraft is Cheating You! (Swedes Say)

Regardless of what you think of the game this kid is an idiot and the Swedish Consumer Association are even bigger idiots:

World of Warcraft is cheating you! (Swedes say)
Oh wow, consumer journalism reaches a new all-time high.
 
Many European countries have dedicated TV-shows for consumer journalism that focus on the consumers\' concerns and the many ways they can get cheated.

In Sweden there\'s a show called Plus, and it found out about a gruesome scheme called World of Warcraft.

A young Swede, Jonas Nilson, bought World of Warcraft: Collectors\' Edition. Once he got home, he was quite angry when he discovered that he actually needed the Internet to play WoW. After pulling a cable into the living room to his laptop (yes, laptop), he got another surprise: the monthly fee. Finally the 12+ PEGI rating didn\'t really match with the Blizzard site, which said 18-year-old. So he calls the shop (Elgiganten) to get a refund, which they rejected.

This prompted him to complain to the Consumer Association, which ruled in favor of Mr. Nilson. The result was a prime spot in the Swedish TV-show Plus, which conclusion was that "a monthly fee in computer games is just a clever way to get people\'s money" and that consumers should "watch this latest trend in computer gaming carefully".

So what\'s wrong with that?

The box says that Internet is required.
 
The box says there\'s a monthly fee to be paid.
 
PEGI-ratings are NOT handed out by Blizzard. The 18-year old requirement on the site is related to payment and credit cards.
Elgiganten should of course refund you if the product isn\'t as it was described. But it was...
 
If you\'re clever enough to read through the user conditions to realise that there\'s a different age recruitement than the the one the box, you should be able to read on and realise that Blizzard actually offers to refund your money if you\'re not satisfied with the conditions.
 
The monthly fee is not some devilish scheme to steal your money. It\'s by no means cheap to pay for hundreds of developers and supporters in several locations around the world in order to keep the game running and continue its development.


http://pc.boomtown.net/en_uk/articles/art.view.php?id=8021

There is even a video link at the bottom if you can endure 5 minutes of Swedish - meaning that if it isn\'t your native language.

[videoholic]

So many people just don\'t pay attention to the world around them.

Yep, we normally call them Americans.....but not this time!  USA!  USA!  USA!

Sverker says "Hörru du, Gigashadow! Ska det vara så? Ska det? Ska det vara så?" *throws Gigashadow in the trash can*

(only people who watch Plus will understand that.)

Plus is a pretty good show when Sverker talks about people being ripped off for real. I didnt see this however (watches video)

EDIT: What a retard. He\'s from up north though so you cant expect too much from him.

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

I donno, paying monthly fees is bs. You\'ve paid the developers as soon as you\'ve bought the game. The monthly fees should be extremely low if anything. Think about how much u pay, times that by how many people have bought the game, then by whatever per year you have to pay. Thats a SHIT LOAD of cash, i doubt the developers themselves see even 1% of it.

I donno, paying monthly fees is bs. You\'ve paid the developers as soon as you\'ve bought the game. The monthly fees should be extremely low if anything. Think about how much u pay, times that by how many people have bought the game, then by whatever per year you have to pay. Thats a SHIT LOAD of cash, i doubt the developers themselves see even 1% of it.

see, if you have never played a MMO before, you are just being ignorant.

WoW as 1.5 millions player base. they have a 500k people playing per night.

You really think the price of the box would cover the server infrastructure, the bandwith, the IT staff ??

Now, lets put in the always under devlopment systems (3rd patch so far, 30megs, 80megs, and 56megs(?)) Customer support, website, comunity manager /staff..

I usually buy 1 game per month (PC, GC or PS2) and since november i bought none.. only paid 12$ per month for WoW..

MMO are different then your general online game.

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

you think they need all the cash to service and pay staff.     Dood, they do it for profit. They\'d run it on the smallest amount of staff possible and they\'d only update servers when they REALLY need to. They\'re making shitloads from this, its ignorant to think otherwise.

12 x 1.5million = 18million per month = 216 million per year. You still think they need all that for staff / servers

soully, you\'re a damn fool

do you have ANY kind of idea the server farms and bandwidth these games use?

games like WoW, and EQ2 are patched everyday to update various areas, whether network related or in game.

[videoholic]

I was skeptical on the monthly payment, but I\'ve seen that they really do an awfule lot of work on the game.  I\'ve only had the game for a couple months and they\'ve changed quite a bit.  Plus the fact that it is a HUGE bandwidth hog.

And OF COURSE they are making money.  Why in the world would they do it to lose money?

Originally posted by fastson

EDIT: What a retard. He\'s from up north though so you cant expect too much from him.

So the people from Northern Sweden are like the people from California (most) in the US?

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

Originally posted by mm
soully, you\'re a damn fool

do you have ANY kind of idea the server farms and bandwidth these games use?

games like WoW, and EQ2 are patched everyday to update various areas, whether network related or in game.

it wouldn\'t cost anywhere near 18 million per month to maintain the servers, pay bandwidth, pay developers etc. They\'re in it for a profit, its really that simple and they\'d be making a large amount at that.

[Evi]

Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
it wouldn\'t cost anywhere near 18 million per month to maintain the servers, pay bandwidth, pay developers etc. They\'re in it for a profit, its really that simple and they\'d be making a large amount at that.

DO you know how much it costs?

$17.9M

Lol @ THX...

Only in Sweden! *looks at Fast*

[§ôµÏG®ïñD]

Originally posted by EviscerationX
DO you know how much it costs?

ohh dood, if u think it costs them 18 million per month you\'re a idiot. They wouldn\'t be doing this unless they were pocketing money. They\'re not retards like M$