ps3 $399

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Right. Sony has no say in launch titles. They don\'t own any development studio\'s. Oh and only PSone launch title worth noting was \'Warhawk\'.

Pah.As if MS owned like many development studios.Overally PS1 outclassed the Saturn in a short period of time.And Wipeout was one of those titles that set new standards.

You are wrong that the only launch title worth noting was warhawk.Thats just you.Ridge Racer and Twisted Metal were 2 of the best games around back then.
And considering that Playstation was Sony\'s first effort in the videogame industry they did very good.
The games displayied in PS\'s demo1 disk simply showed a lot more than what the Saturn offered then.

Oh aI almost forgot.....Jumping Flash.

There is not a single "killer app" in any PS launch. Infact, there wasn\'t one out of the last three SYSTEMS.

I agree in regards to the PS2 launch and PSP, however If i recall correctly PS1 may not have had what we consider killer app for launch, but it had a few quality titles, I remember alot of people going crazy over Twisted metal including myself. I do agree that there was no Halo or SONIC

LIC, when did you become to jaded?

This was far too hypocritical, for me to resist.
mm you are one to speak of; hell you take the crown for that title. You accuse him of being jaded when you display even more so for every Xbox game that ever existed, plus everything else that ever existed on this planet and yet you expect anyone to believe you have any real unbiased objective opinion or outlook.

first, you cry there was nothing.
so i get the lists, then there\'s no "killer app"

Kind of reminds me of the same thing that you do when ever you get backed in corner to any debate. Make excuse after excuse, until you tire the other individual out. For the record when the man said there was nothing he was referring to the fact that the game line up was less then steller, but you already knew that, so your list proves nothing but your own so called resonable opinon that you like to pass along as fact.

then how did sony\'s units dominate the industry? how come the demand is so strong?

We all know the answer to that, but it has little to do with there launch titles, which pretty much negates your point.  Hell DC had a good launch line up but it died pretty quickly.

guess it takes teh halo to be a successful launch

I guess so :rolleyes:

wrong, i hate all console gaming

nice try tho
points awarded for effort

It\'s the thought that counts!

Originally posted by NVIDIA256


We all know the answer to that, but it has little to do with there launch titles, which pretty much negates your point.  Hell DC had a good launch line up but it died pretty quickly.

 

True but that makes the discussion pointless since its proof that a couple of killer app launch titles dont determine signifigantly the console\'s success and the quality games that will be released later

[Living-In-Clip]

Originally posted by mm
LIC, when did you become to jaded?

honestly, it\'s tired

first, you cry there was nothing.
so i get the lists, then there\'s no "killer app"


then how did sony\'s units dominate the industry?  how come the demand is so strong?

just grasping at air now
i guess it takes teh halo to be a successful launch

whats your next excuse?

Hype. Sony sold units the same way crap movie\'s are made and make millions. Hype. Nothing but hype. Not to mention, let\'s face it, the Saturn had the worst possible launch, Nintendo had not launched yet, so Sony was in a position to come out with a medicore launch and make it look great. .. After that, they established a lead and rode that lead with the PS2 hype. The same they plan on doing with this next launch.


As for Toshiden, it was a great looking game, but the gameplay was broken.

just grasping at air now
i guess it takes teh halo to be a successful launch

If you read, you\'d note I said the last three systems have not had a good launch title. What I meant, is the NGC / XBOX / PS2 did not have any good launch titles. I bought all three and was dissapointed with all three on launch.


As for "missed out"? I don\'t think so. I spent plenty of money on Sony at launch and regretted every dime of it. Same with MS and Nintendo (Cube). Can\'t say the same with the DC, which had solid titles from day one and while the N64 may of only had TWO games at launch, they was both "KILLER APPS".

Wasnt the first wipeout a launch game for ps as well? Man, when ps came out i was going nuts (to a certain degree). I really liked saturn, but ps was great. I had too much fun with it. Was jet moto a launch game too?

Wow, i cant believe mm mentioned Total Eclipse. lol. That blows my mind. And i thought, my friend and I were the only two people that played that game and or enjoyed it in the slightest.

Meh,

Call me a fanboy or w/e you may want to think, but both ps and ps2 launches had enough for me. I dont need any huge "killer app" at launch. I really dont care. If you need something that big just to get the console then you\'re either spoiled, or are just.... different.....from me, i guess (though i wouldnt consider myself a casual gamer by any means).

The other systems usually had one killer ap(sometimes not even considered a killer ap either) and nothing else good enough to pick up the interest anyways.

The N64 when launched it sold better than both PS1\'s and Saturn\'s launch combined.People went crazy with Mario64.But later sales dropped like a rock.

PS1 thought had many good titles to choose from

[GmanJoe]

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
SSX = Trash

You\'re in the minority there. Most people love this game.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

Wipout Fusion = Crap

That was not a launch title. If you meant Wipeout Pure, again, you are in the minority since many people say it\'s better than Wipeout XL.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

Ridge Racer  = Jaggy and to "arcadey"

The arcade game was the same. Not my type of game but if that\'s the way it was on the arcade, that\'s the way it\'s gonna be on the console. sheesh!

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

Battle Arena Toshiden = Pretty, but terrible gameplay.

The first true 3D fighting game. It\'s changed the whole fighting genre.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

At most, you have Twisted Metal and Warhawk.
 

Warhawk was not a launch title but it was close. It definitely is one of my favorite games.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

There is not a single "killer app" in any PS launch. Infact, there wasn\'t one out of the last three SYSTEMS.

Mario64 got the highest rated game for a luanch title from nearly every gaming magazine. It\'s evident you have a hardwired hostile opinion against Sony so no matter what is said or how successful it becomes, you will still have a bitter opinion. I\'m surprised you\'re bitter about the UMD. It\'s a portable gaming system and it requires a medium for its size and to combat piracy.

Originally posted by GmanJoe
The first true 3D fighting game. It\'s changed the whole fighting genre.

Virtua Fighter came out in 1993, way before Battle Arena Toshinden.

[GmanJoe]

Originally posted by Rikku
Virtua Fighter came out in 1993, way before Battle Arena Toshinden.

They cha-cha\'d back and forth. No sidestepping like BAT. Virtua Fighter "looked" 3D.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Toshinden actually introduced 3-D movement to fighters. Thus, it is considered the first true 3D fighter.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Fuck you G-Man.

Last time I try and stick up for you. You just had to steal my thunder.

p.s. cats = dogs

[GmanJoe]

Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Fuck you G-Man.

Last time I try and stick up for you. You just had to steal my thunder.

p.s. cats = dogs

Heh...sorry! I waited for you to say something but you took too long. You were prolly napping....like a cat.

The only game I played when ps2 launched was TTT.
Everything else sucked. I am glad I had a dc or it would have been a gaming nightmare.

Playstation has not had a great launch of games since it launched.
Dc had the best launch out of all of the console and it did not survive.

Sad:(