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Offline Riku
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« Reply #15 on: August 21, 2005, 09:06:15 AM »
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"fine" and staying in 2nd (possibly 3rd) place are two different animals


Somebody has to be in second, and another has to be in third.  There\'s no getting around that, and a business can do well in either of those places.

Mark my words, Nintendo will be in third place again.
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« Reply #16 on: August 21, 2005, 09:10:29 AM »
Ok, but for alot of ppl, MS has created this confusion about this backwards compatibility.

When a console maker states \'backwards compatible\', the consumer rightfully assumes that\'s out-of-the-box feature, not by means of a HD add on sold seperately.

I know alot of ppl who were a little disappointed they had to buy Xbox\'s dvd movie kit to be able to watch dvd\'s on Xbox while it was standard on PS2.
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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2005, 09:13:17 AM »
How will it work exactly? :confused:
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« Reply #18 on: August 21, 2005, 09:19:02 AM »
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Thus the backwards compatability is known as being possible on the premium model and not the core.

This all comes down to how well Microsoft communicates to the consumer what the benefits are of either package, and then let the consumer decide what they need.

There will be an audience for both packages, and people won\'t mind shelling out more dollars for the accessories.  Sony proved that with the PSP Value Pak.
Its not the same.

The PSP value pak didnt split what consumers could do with their PSPs.

The same things the Value Pack could do could also be done on the stand alone PSP package.

 On the other hand with XBOX360 some will be able to play their original XBOX games others wont be able.Others will have full benefits of Live others wont.

I am not saying that they have messed up.That I dont know.Just making an observation.
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« Reply #19 on: August 21, 2005, 09:23:39 AM »
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How will it work exactly? :confused:


simple ; the xbox 1 specific emulation software must be installed on HD.
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« Reply #20 on: August 21, 2005, 09:35:10 AM »
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Ok, but for alot of ppl, MS has created this confusion about this backwards compatibility.

When a console maker states \'backwards compatible\', the consumer rightfully assumes that\'s out-of-the-box feature, not by means of a HD add on sold seperately.

I know alot of ppl who were a little disappointed they had to buy Xbox\'s dvd movie kit to be able to watch dvd\'s on Xbox while it was standard on PS2.


I\'ll say it again.  This all comes down to how well Microsoft informs the consumer of what they need in order to do what they want.  If MS can effectively communicate that you need the HD to have backwards compatability then there is no confusion.
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« Reply #21 on: August 21, 2005, 09:59:39 AM »
the confusion is that they lied
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« Reply #22 on: August 21, 2005, 10:00:39 AM »
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Its not the same.

The PSP value pak didnt split what consumers could do with their PSPs.

The same things the Value Pack could do could also be done on the stand alone PSP package.

 On the other hand with XBOX360 some will be able to play their original XBOX games others wont be able.Others will have full benefits of Live others wont.

I am not saying that they have messed up.That I dont know.Just making an observation.


Where\'s the confusion?  Core = no backwards compatability.  Premium = Backwards compatability.  If you want backwards compatability you\'ll know which package to get.  Being able to play original xbox games won\'t cripple or split the Xbox 360 games audience.

Microsoft recently said that the HD is not needed to use Xbox Live.  But, if you plan on downloading demos/previews, arcade games, extra content, etc then you might want something bigger than a 64 MB memory card.  

I argued this before, the HD is an accessory.  It\'s a big memory card where you can keep more than just a few game saves.  Keep music, downloaded content, downloaded demos, Live arcade games,  customized content, game saves, et al all in one place.  If you want to play with the above, buy the Premium System.  If you just want the standard game, buy the core system.

I don\'t see how any of this has hurt Microsoft.
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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2005, 10:01:45 AM »
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the confusion is that they lied


about what?
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« Reply #24 on: August 21, 2005, 10:02:28 AM »
do you pay any attention to console news or just troll this forum for no particular reason?
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« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2005, 10:09:09 AM »
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do you pay any attention to console news or just troll this forum for no particular reason?


I troll?!  That\'s really funny coming from YOU.

Tell me what they lied about, and give me a direct quote.  The last I heard straight from J Allards mouth was that the Xbox 360 will be backwards compatible, but it will require the HD.
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« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2005, 10:15:41 AM »
apparently you dont remember what was said at E3
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« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2005, 10:51:28 AM »
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apparently you dont remember what was said at E3


Like I said, the last thing I heard.  That being post-E3.

Anyway, give me a quote from the e3 presentation and a link.  Thanks.
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« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2005, 11:46:30 AM »
Who in their right mind would pay 50 bucks plus tax for one wireless controller? Even the regular controller is 40 bucks. :eek:
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« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2005, 12:11:35 PM »
rikku, if you didnt pay attention to E3, that is your ignorance and blind faith in what you heard today

microsoft promised backwards compatibility, then it was only certain titles, then it was all titles, now it\'s only on the premium system
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