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Offline Riku
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« Reply #45 on: September 03, 2005, 04:03:05 PM »
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And what government would that be Rikku?  State and local governments are the ones who arrange those projects.  People need to understand that the Federal Government is not in charge of local projects - those are controlled by local and state governments.  

It is well known that the City of New Orleans is as corrupt as it gets and putting anything under their supervision is a complete waste.  The city of New Orleans gets an annual fiscal budget and their city planners decide how it is going to be spent.  The priority is then rearranged to suit every politician in the city.  This happens everywhere - but it is worse in NO.  

BS - where is the link for that slanted story you posted?  All federal projects were scaled back in every major city.  If NO was so concerned about those levee\'s they should have reallocated the funds or added a 1 cent sales tax for example to complete the "repairs".


I\'ve cited the state government as a problem several times, thanks.  The federal government scaled back funding so I think they\'re at fault too.  Feel free to present an arguement though, I\'m all open for getting to the truth of the matter.

I didn\'t post that story, Giga.  It\'s in line with many other articles posted on the internet though, feel free to look them up for yourself.
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« Reply #46 on: September 03, 2005, 04:12:41 PM »
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I didn\'t post that story, Giga.  It\'s in line with many other articles posted on the internet though, feel free to look them up for yourself.


I said BS as in Black Samauri.  Yes I know it is all over leftist blogs... Go figure.  Instead of stepping up to the plate and assisting these people - the left in this country would rather play the blame game and politics.  What is important here are people\'s lives - not someone\'s political agenda (not referring to you Rikku).

Sorry, but I am too tired and have personally been involved in the relief effort here in AL to continue participating in the Monday morning quarterbacking by certain individuals.
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« Reply #47 on: September 03, 2005, 04:25:31 PM »
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I said BS as in Black Samauri.  Yes I know it is all over leftist blogs... Go figure.  Instead of stepping up to the plate and assisting these people - the left in this country would rather play the blame game and politics.  What is important here are people\'s lives - not someone\'s political agenda (not referring to you Rikku).


I thought you meant bullshit.  My mistake.
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« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2005, 04:47:17 PM »
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I thought you meant bullshit...

LOL.:laughing:
That was funny.  Somehow I knew you thought that too after Gigashadow said that BS meant Black Samurai...

and I was thinking, hmm...did somebody here thought BS meant something else.

I like humor here and there, its good way to release some stress.
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« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2005, 05:44:06 PM »
You know what, it can be summed up like this.

It was the federal\'s fault. It was Fema\'s fault. It was local and state\'s fault. Fact is, there is enough blame to place on everyone. And there will be a time to place the blame, but right now, instead of playin\' the blame game , they need to move forward, get the people out. That should be what everyone, including the media focuses on right now. After and only after, the people are out of there, do we need to start playing the blame game.

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« Reply #50 on: September 03, 2005, 07:04:53 PM »
Was about to head to bed and saw this on Drudge - every state has an emergency plan.  Here in AL I go to the EMA quite frequently and I know they have people 24 hours a day monitoring things even when nothing is going on.  Seeing the following just makes me wonder why they didn\'t follow their own plan?

On the front of Drudge:

Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00

\'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating\'...
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« Reply #51 on: September 03, 2005, 08:21:57 PM »
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Was about to head to bed and saw this on Drudge - every state has an emergency plan.  Here in AL I go to the EMA quite frequently and I know they have people 24 hours a day monitoring things even when nothing is going on.  Seeing the following just makes me wonder why they didn\'t follow their own plan?

On the front of Drudge:

Louisiana disaster plan, pg 13, para 5 , dated 01/00

\'The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating\'...


I think that has been a big question from the start of this. Why did they not get these people out? They could of had the transportation lined up at the Superdome and anyone who showed up, would be taken out of the city. Sure, it would of not saved everyone, but it would of prevented a lot of what we are see\'ing now.

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« Reply #52 on: September 04, 2005, 04:17:06 AM »
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here, open an account at http://www.myspace.com and put your anti-america shit there please


I am NOT anti-america !

Just to put that right...
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« Reply #53 on: September 04, 2005, 06:19:36 AM »
no, you\'re anti-educated

oh, and something to ponder

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Why The Katrina Coverage Made Me Switch To Fox News
The Post Chronicle
Sep 3, 2005
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Watching both Fox and NBC after President Bush had been inspecting the Gulf Coast and New Orleans, I was shocked at how the nets, and even some newspapers, were trying to blame the Bush Administration for the slowness in which help was reaching the damaged cities. Obviously, Brian Williams and his news team do not know the law, nor do they know the past history of New Orleans--a city built in a bathtub of a swamp. This is a city where the dead, for centuries, have had to be buried in above-ground structures because the water is so close to the surface of this sinking city. If coffins are put in the ground, they will rise to the surface as the underground water pushes them up. I have been to these cemeteries personally to witness this.

For decades, New Orleans has been told that the city is sinking, and that the old levees have to be rebuilt and modernized in order to keep the city from being flooded. Local officials never finished the work, nor have pleas to Congress for additional federal help been heeded. Congress has simply never seen fit to fully complete this effort, whether controlled by Democrats or Republicans.

"Why did it take five days for Bush to help?" is the mantra constantly voiced by all the "Talking Heads" on TV. Here are the reasons:

(1) It is against the law for any President to order troops into a city or across state lines without a request and permission from the Governor of that state.

John Armor, a First Amendment lawyer and one of my favorite writers, told me, "Federal law prevents the President from sending in the National Guard until the Governor gives the order. It is little known, but the Commanding General of the National Guard in every state reports to the Governor, not the President, until the Governor says otherwise. U.S. military units (regular Army, not the Guard) cannot be used because of the Posse Comitatus law, until the Guard has been authorized."

According to some news sources, the Governor of Louisiana, who knew the levees were weak, who knew that the city had been slowly sinking, and who knew that a major # 5 hurricane was approaching her city, did not call Washington for help.

(2) The Mayor of New Orleans did call for evacuation over a loud-speaker, but did nothing to be sure that the police went door-to-door, followed by transportation, to pick up all those who did not have cars or any ability to leave.

There was no other leadership practiced by the mayor there, as had been in New York City during 9/11 by Mayor Giuliani.

(3) The hurricane veered east and saved New Orleans, Brian Williams announced a week ago, and all breathed a sigh of relief...until the levees broke a day or two later allowing the surrounding waters to pour into the city.

(4) It was this predicted levee failure which had been ignored for so long that doomed the local people to be held hostage in their attics or on rooftops, not the storm. It was also the failure of the local bureaucrats and local elected leaders to maintain law and order, and to have pre-arranged for complete evacuations of the city.

It was only after a request went out to the President that troops could be sent in. Can you imagine the anti-Bush media screaming that Bush had invaded Louisiana as he had done in Iraq if he had gone in before being asked? I can just imagine The New York Times headlining, "A Repeat of Shock and Awe by Bush!"

Bill O\'Reilly, on Fox News, was the only commentator I heard who explained this. All the other network commentators seemed too willing to allow the implication inferred by the viewers, that this was all the fault of the Bush Administration.

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« Reply #54 on: September 04, 2005, 06:37:37 AM »
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« Reply #55 on: September 04, 2005, 07:11:50 AM »
uhhh....wtf?
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« Reply #56 on: September 04, 2005, 07:12:06 AM »
Eye - neither of those links you provided disputes what mm posted.  As others have blatently pointed out here - your hatred for the right has blinded you.  Please only post links to relevant information to support your argument about the topic at hand.  Your post above makes you look like a lunatic.
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« Reply #57 on: September 04, 2005, 07:31:34 AM »
My links refer to this: "Bill O\'Reilly, on Fox News, was the only commentator I heard who explained this. All the other network commentators seemed too willing to allow the implication inferred by the viewers, that this was all the fault of the Bush Administration."

The whole article was written like one of his TV shows.
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« Reply #58 on: September 04, 2005, 07:34:28 AM »
you mean it supported bush and you hate that?
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« Reply #59 on: September 04, 2005, 07:38:29 AM »
Well what in that article is false?  Maybe you should start there if you\'re going to disagree with it, instead of just continuing on your anti-bush tirade.

 

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