Bush is an Asshole ! (Peace to New Orleans)

Originally posted by Eiksirf

Isn\'t red tape fun?

Heaven forbid he take a moment and actually lead, I know.

-Dan

He can\'t just choose when he listens to laws and when he doesn\'t.

I really have a problem with this.

Not only can he, but he should have when it meant rescuing people from that hurricane and the flooding.

I know he didn\'t, and I know why the administration will say he didn\'t, but he damn well should have.

He could have saved lives and I\'m going to sit here and go "gee, but that\'s against the law!"

I\'m not just upset with the federal response though. The fact that the local government didn\'t prepare for a storm like that, a likely storm, is ridiculous!!

We won\'t build a house around here without making sure it can withstand the "100 year storm" or greatest storm from the last hundred years.

Sitting in front of a hurricane valley and only building levees to handle level 4 storms is so irresponsible its disgusting. Only thing I can think of is they maybe didn\'t have the funds, but coming up with the money probably seems like it would have been a worthwhile investment.

So it sucks that the local government wasn\'t looking out for its citizens for years prior to now and it sucks that the federal government couldnt be bothered to "break the law" to rescue its victims last week.

I don\'t think I can be swayed on this one..

-Dan

Wow, I guess I should just give up on you, you don\'t listen.

I listened. I just disagree. There\'s a difference.

-Dan

And what we\'ve said is their is nothing to disagree about, he can\'t just up and do that.  It\'s not like he has the power to listen or not to the law, he just couldn\'t do it.

yeah, gotta respect Eik for that

i see the whole ordeal as just a disaster.
all local and state support was destroyed in the hurricane.
the NG was on 3 day alert status.
the president cannot order troops into the city.
it was a clusterfuck but not one person\'s fault

now, if you want to break it down in to individual matters...

the levee\'s only being capable of withstanding roughly a cat 3 hurricane was negligent.   anyone with the least amount of common sense should have realized that cat 4 and cat 5 hurricanes exist and could have plowed into that area.

cramming 10k+ people into the superdome with no utilties, no supplies, and no preperation.  whoever decided this needs to be fired.  it\'s not a sleepover, those people are going to be there a while

an evacuation plan for the city should have been created decades ago, and well planned out.  it\'s along the gulf and below sea level, hello?

teach self-actualization and a basic knowledge of preservation in people down there.  i read today that locals down there still refuse to leaev thier flooded houses cause they fear looters...wtf?  a few people died from the beginning stages of cholera in the last day or so.  that will spread like wildfire in still water, and poor hygenic conditions.

get the fuck out of that city, noone wants your waterlogged shit

[Evi]

Originally posted by mm
yeah, gotta respect Eik for that

i see the whole ordeal as just a disaster.
all local and state support was destroyed in the hurricane.
the NG was on 3 day alert status.
the president cannot order troops into the city.
it was a clusterfuck but not one person\'s fault

now, if you want to break it down in to individual matters...

the levee\'s only being capable of withstanding roughly a cat 3 hurricane was negligent.   anyone with the least amount of common sense should have realized that cat 4 and cat 5 hurricanes exist and could have plowed into that area.

cramming 10k+ people into the superdome with no utilties, no supplies, and no preperation.  whoever decided this needs to be fired.  it\'s not a sleepover, those people are going to be there a while

an evacuation plan for the city should have been created decades ago, and well planned out.  it\'s along the gulf and below sea level, hello?

teach self-actualization and a basic knowledge of preservation in people down there.  i read today that locals down there still refuse to leaev thier flooded houses cause they fear looters...wtf?  a few people died from the beginning stages of cholera in the last day or so.  that will spread like wildfire in still water, and poor hygenic conditions.

get the fuck out of that city, noone wants your waterlogged shit

:eek:

I agree.

[clips]

yep mm summed it up pretty much....as everybody should know by now, i like to look at all sides of the story, and even tho it pains me to say this, but those stories of people shooting at those people bringin\' in supplies really is disturbing..what the hell is wrong with those people? Yes i know that those people most likely are of african american desent ....let\'s be honest...the only way these people could\'ve been white is only if they were part of some militia group, which is highly unlikely...

even tho it\'s only a few that\'s doin this, i know that white people wouldn\'t have fired on the emergency personnel like that....even if they were left for 6 days like that...people can say they were mad or whatever, but i\'ll tell you this, if i would\'ve gotten fired on i wouldn\'t have went back....well maybe i would have, but not immediately....those people that really need the supplies are right in the mix with those assholes that are shooting at the help...sad really...

[Living-In-Clip]

At least we can all agree on one thing and that it was not just one persons fault. It was a let down on both sides , local and federal. There is no way to save everyone, but a lot of people could of been saved. The problem is, both sides let the people of N.O down.

If anything, I think this shows us just how fucked our system really is. When our own President, the man leading the nation, can not use his power to save people, due to some silly laws - then what good is he really? And if we can\'t trust the federal, can we trust the state? Obviously not. Because if we could trust them, then a diaster plan would of been put into action that actually worked.

At this point in time, I\'m neither democratic or republican. Why? Because none of that matters. What am I? I\'m an American disgusted with our system and the way it handles life changing events.

Now what do we do? We have an estimated four hundred thousand jobs lost. More homeless people than we know what to do with and untelling how many dead people. What does the goverment do now?

400,000 jobs lost? well....there is a city and its roads that need rebuilding.....

[clips]

Originally posted by Phil
400,000 jobs lost? well....there is a city and its roads that need rebuilding.....

you really are thee shining ball of light at the end of the tunnel aren\'t you Phil?

It\'ll give them something to do won\'t it?

[clips]

Originally posted by Phil
It\'ll give them something to do won\'t it?

tru enough..but i was just being sarcastic when i said that...

I know, just wanted to reinforce the fact I wasn\'t.

Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
At least we can all agree on one thing and that it was not just one persons fault. It was a let down on both sides , local and federal.

I would add one more to that list: the public.  From staying in the area, to looting, to shooting at rescue workers... this further led to the mess that\'s there now.

Something to chew on:

http://tiadaily.com/php-bin/news/showArticle.php?id=1026