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« on: September 12, 2005, 10:22:29 AM »
Shameless copynpaste:

Here is a whole lot of new PS3 info, including notes from developers, courtesy of the latest issue of Offical Playstation Magazine, U.S. edition:

Developers are finding that it’s a easier to develop games on the PS3 than the Xbox 360.
Sony has begun taking orders for the PS3’s final development kits. They will be shipped to developers in December 2005.
Games appearing on both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 will look very similar. Games designed specifically for the PS3 should have noticably improved visuals.
The PS3 will launch with an online community similar to Xbox Live complete with buddy lists, player matching, and other services. This sort of online community was originally envisioned for the PS2, but will materialize fully with the PS3.
Madden developer Tiburon has had an official PS3 dev kit for as long, if not longer than any other American developer. They received their kits in August 2005.
The PS3 should be available worldwide by the Summer of 2006.
The Tokyo Game Show 2005 will not have a big PS3 presence. Sony is planning on using the CES in January as the PS3’s next big coming out party.
Should the PS3 launch in March 2006, there would only be a few first-party games, 2 or 3 games from EA, and possibly one more 3rd party title available. Basically, it would be Sega Saturn-esque launch.
Rockstar North is working on a completely new game engine for the PS3-based Grand Theft Auto 4. With all the power that the Cell, RSX, and Blu-Ray discs will provide, Rockstar aiming to develop a photo realistic city populated with equally realistic humans.
Metal Gear Solid 4 is being described as a mix of Rambo and Black Hawk Down. Snake will be involved heavily in urban combat fighting alongside a squad of computer controlled teammates. There will also be a new 3D camera in the game.

PSM also published this provisional list of PS3 games:

Activision
Spider-Man 3

Bandai
Mobile Suit Gundam

EA
Need For Speed Underground 3
Madden NFL 2007
New Medal of Honor
NBA Live 2007
Fight Night Round 3
Def Jam Vendetta 3
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2007
New SSX
New Burnout

Majesco
The Darkness

Buena Vista Interactive
Pirates OF the Caribbean: Dead Man’s Chest

Capcom
New Ghouls N ‘ Ghosts
Devil May Cry 4
Resident Evil 5
(Plus the return of a popular, but unnamed fighting series)

Rockstar
GTA 4
(Western-themed action game, probably Red Dead Revolver 2)

Sony
Genji 2
Warhawk
I-8
The Getaway 3
Killzone 3
Gran Turismo 5
New Hot Shots Golf
MotorStorm
Eyedentify
Heavenly Sword
Formula One 2007
New Wipeout
(A new game from the ICO / Shadow of the Colossus folks)

Sony Online Entertainment
Marvel Comics MMORPG
(Unnamed fantasy MMORPG)

Namco
Tekken 6
Ridge Racer 6

Eidos
New Tomb Raider

LucasArts
Star Wars: Clone Wars
New Indiana Jones (to tie-in with the new Indy movie)

Konami
Metal Gear Solid 4
New Suikoden
New Castlevania

Midway
UT 2007
Mortal Kombat
Stranglehold

Atari
Test Drive Unlimited

THQ
WWE (Untitled)

Sega
Fifth Phantom Saga
Sonic The Hedgehog
Condemned: Criminal Origins

Tecmo
Fatal Frame 4

Ubisoft
Prince OF Persia 4
Killing Day

Koei
Ni-oh

Games also said to be under development:
Dark Second Gate
Dirty Harry
Project Avalon
Endless Saga
Lair
Possession
Death Jr.
Metronome
Psychopath
Fantasy XIII
Alan Wake

Props: Official U.S. Playstation Magazine

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http://www.gamegeeknews.com/?p=186#more-186
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2005, 10:44:52 AM »
PS3: More of the Same

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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2005, 11:05:00 AM »
Whoah I am impressed with the number of first party games.

Anyways I see many sequels that I am interested on(including Warhawk and Castlevania and hoepfully will be 2D) and I hope they proove something more than just rehashes

But the titles I have no idea what to expect from but keep me interested are:

Killzone3
the return of a popular, but unnamed fighting series
Ghouls N ‘ Ghosts
MotorStorm
Heavenly Sword
Killing Day (showed a video to a friend that studies in Moscow.He told me that the place showed in the video exists in Russia and its exactly the same)
Lair


I hope they are as good as they promise

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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2005, 11:07:31 AM »
interesting that PS3 is easier to develop than XBOX360.  But how about compare PS3 to PS2, it\'s much easier and better to program/develop on?

Games that got me interested from the list is Castlevania and FFXIII (as usual)...
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« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2005, 11:16:56 AM »
heh, eik expects next gen consoles to plug directly into his cerebral cortex

:P

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The PS3 will launch with an online community similar to Xbox Live complete with buddy lists, player matching, and other services. This sort of online community was originally envisioned for the PS2, but will materialize fully with the PS3.


make that shit free, sony
do it right, and you will be rewarded

paying for online gaming = lame
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2005, 11:17:54 AM »
Paul2:I dont think it really matters.Unless the PS3 and XBOX360 are so hard to program effiecently on that it will reduce motivation to develop on them.

But I doubt that.Harder than PS2?Well even if it is I dont think it would be enough to make developers choose not to develop on XBOX360 or PS3.

Its probably something expected anyways from th enext generation consoles since they are using new architecture and I believe that will be temporary

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« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2005, 11:18:34 AM »
That will not be free.

If it is, then damn, that would be kickass.

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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2005, 11:21:57 AM »
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heh, eik expects next gen consoles to plug directly into his cerebral cortex
 
But you are already playing on a device that is plugged directly into your cerebral cortex.You are inside the Matrix :nerd:

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« Reply #8 on: September 12, 2005, 11:26:41 AM »
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But I doubt that.Harder than PS2?Well even if it is I dont think it would be enough to make developers choose not to develop on XBOX360 or PS3.

Its probably something expected anyways from th enext generation consoles since they are using new architecture and I believe that will be temporary

Maybe I need to get better at wording my English because what I meant to say is that PS2 is said to be difficult to develop on.

Is the PS3 easier to develop on this time around compare to PS2 which is difficult?

I think the biggest obstacles with PS2 is the limited 4 MB of VRAM with no texture compression.

Seeing that both XBOX and PS3 uses 512 MB of RAM, I suppose it should be easier now than it was before...

makes me wonder about multi-core processing though...
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2005, 12:31:24 PM »
PS3 Controller in hand:



yow that\'s pretty small

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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2005, 12:40:14 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2005, 12:53:01 PM »
yeah rite what developers
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« Reply #12 on: September 12, 2005, 01:58:46 PM »
1: It came from a PS magazine. Means nothing to me. Guess what? I bet the Xbox magazines say that developers are finding it easier to develop for the Xbox 360.

2: That controller picture is not right. Has to be some kind of scale model or something.

3: Like Eik said - more of the same. Woohoo..

4: Edit - Oh yeah and if that Castlevania is 3D, then screw Konami.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2005, 02:31:42 PM »
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Developers are finding that it’s a easier to develop games on the PS3 than the Xbox 360.

The PS3 will launch with an online community similar to Xbox Live complete with buddy lists, player matching, and other services. This sort of online community was originally envisioned for the PS2, but will materialize fully with the PS3.

PSM also published this provisional list of PS3 games:

I-8
New Wipeout
Fantasy XIII


Developers have said that the Xbox 360 is easier to develop on than the PS3.  John Carmack expressed that the PS3 is a pain in the ass.

The Online service is the most interesting part of the news, I\'m curious if it will be on par with Live.  Costs?

I-8, Wipeout, and Final Fantasy XIII are the only games that interest me at the moment.  And whatever Naughty Dog is working on.
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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2005, 03:06:55 PM »
Here is a more complete translation of the news...

Playstation 3 Uncovered!

PSM\'s information came from developers. Some on the record, some off.

....particularly when it comes to ease of development for the system: how it cmpares to PS2, and more importantly, Xbox 360. "The *****ing this round sounds opposite of the last. Both are friendly, but the PS3 may actually be friendlier," reports one of out PS2 and Xbox 360 development sources, who wished to remain anonymous. "People are finding that the [xbox] 360 has some stupid bottlenecks."

Developers will soon learn more about the ins-and-outs of creating PS3 games, as Sony has started taking orders for final development hardware to be delivered by December. At that time, game creators will be able to tell just how much mroe extra polish they can put on their titles without worrying about them crapping out on a retail PS3.

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The latest on PS3\'s power
"Once we have final hardware for both next-gen systems, we\'ll have a much better idea of how they caompare, but the general consensus right now is that the PS3 is considerably more powerful than the X360 across the board," said another source. "It\'s important to get a good idea of which is the most powerful soon, since multi-platform games will need to be either ported down from PS3 to 360 or vice-versa."

Speaking of multi-platforming games, another of our next-gen contatcts chimed in with the following when we asked them, flat out, which system will ultimatelyl have the best looking games. "Only the games that are exclusive to tiether system will be real technical showcases,"adding "There will be strong points for each, but the cross platform games will most likely look and perform almost identically."


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PS3\'s Promising Online Support

In addition to all of the cool Wi-Fi-based PSP to PS3 functionality we\'ve previously reported Sony is working on (transferring media and save data between the two anywhere in the world at a hotspot), there\'s some actual news to report on the online gameplay front. not only that, it\'s pretty good. (Although the gradual diminishing of Sony\'s PS2 online plans over that console\'s life will always have us taking their goals in this department with a grain of salt.)

PS3 is slated to have an actual online community ready to back it up on day one, complete with friend tracking, message services, and a central hub for everything. If it sounds like xbox Live, it should. Sony has been folloowing M$\'s moves, and, well, plans to copy most of them, according to our sources. "They [Sony CEA] have a whole division that was put in place after the Network Adaptor was released for PS2 that bascially dropped focus on PS2 and moved to planning the PS3," says one designer working on an online PS3 title. "They knew that early that they were not going to compete during the current gen."


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Ramping up for an early release?
There\'s been a lot of talk about Sony\'s E3 2005 proclamation that PS3 would ship in the spring of 2006. A lot. Would it be in Japan only, or were they talking about the U.S. too? Questioned further on the topic, Sony execs have since stuck to their guns, saying that the system would be available worldwide before next summer. Is that even posssible?

Yes. However, there\'s the question of launch games and system price. (Ok, here it goes into some things about what Ken Kutaragi said (and a few other things) about the pricing, but we all already know about that so I wont\' post it)


PS3 will have a limited playable presence at TGS 2005. Sony has told PSm to expect a significant presence for the system at January\'s CES in Las Vegas. If a March launch does occur, it owuld be accompanied by only a couple of first-party titles, another two to three from EA, and one title at most from their other thrid parties. Madden NFL football developer Tiburon has had PS3 dev hardware longer than almost any other U.S. developer. Rockstar North has had stable kits since at least August 2005.

There\'s a lot of talk among the PS3 developer community about the importance of being firt-to-market, or at least not letting M$ get too much of an installed base before PS3 ships. The general feeling is that Sony considers xbox 360 to be a possible contender in this generation, so they\'re not going to just rest on their laurels. In fact, developers report that Sony Japan is taking a much more hands-on role in the U.S. luanch of PS3 than it did with PS2 or PSP. Shades of the PS2 luanch, there.

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GTA 4: Rebuilt from the Ground Up

The next GTA game is going to look really good. Actually, maybe that should be feel really good. It\'s a no-brainer that on the most powerful games console yet, one of our favorite series will have better graphics. But, base on developer Rockstar North\'s technical research, GTA4 will be more about immersion than just mere eye candy.

Rockstar North is creating a specialized game engine for PS3 that will rbing GTA 4 to life to a degree that the PS2 games could only hint at. Speciafially, they\'re going to be using the high data transfer bandwidth of the Cell CPU, RSX GPU, and Blu-ray Disc to use several streams of game info simultaneously. The game\'s city- unfortunately yet to be even hinted at- will still be free roaming and seamless, but broken down into smaller, more deatailed areas at the engine level, into which the game designers are going to eb able to pour more textures, more oject variety, and tons of details (such as discareded soda cans with their own physics), just for starters. The goal is a city that\'s less repetitive and where everything - and everyone- looks and acts mroe like they would in the real world on every level.


MGS 4 Becomes a War Zone

One source has described the game to PSM as "a cross between Rambo and Black Hawk Down," with Solid Snake plunged into the middle of a high-intesntiy urban war zone where artillery is taking out cover all aroudn him and AI controlled "sidekicks" fight alongside him as if they were actual human-controlled characters. The new 3D camera will paly a big role in surviving the fight quarters and constantly changing cover.

Kojima has an update on teh game planned for TGS.


Now onto the new list of the gamelineup for the PS3...

Quote:
The PS3 Game Lineup So Far

Activision
Spider-Man 3

Bandai
Mobile Suit Gundam

EA
NFSU 3
Madden NFL 2007
Medal of Honor
NBA Live 2007
Fight Night Round 3
Def Jam 3
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 2007
New SSX
New Burnout

Majesco
The Darkness

Buena Vista Interactive
Pirates of the caribbean: dead man\'s chest

Capcom
Return of a "beloved fighting franchise"
New Ghouls N\' Ghosts
DMC 4
RE 5

Rockstar
GTA 4
Western-themed action game (likely Red Dead Revolver 2)

Sony
New Team ICO project
Genji 2
Warhawk
I-8
The Getaway 3
Killzone 3
GT 5
New Hot Shots Golf
MotorStorm
Eyedentify
Heavenly Sword
Formula One 2007
New Wipeout

Sony Online Entertainment
Marvel comics MMORPG (thought this was going to be exclusive to XB360?)
Untitled Fantasy MMORPG

Namco
Tekken 6
Ridge Racer 6

Eidos
Tomb raider Next-gen

Lucas Arts
Star Wars: Clone Wars
indiana Jones (launch with new movie)

Konami
MGS4
Suikoden V
Castlevania

Midway
UT 2007
Mortal Kombat
Stranglehold

Atair
Test Drive Unlimited

THQ
New WWE Project

Sega
Fifth Phantom Saga
Sonic The Hedgehog
Condemned: Criminal Origans

Tecmo
Fatal Frame 4

Ubisoft
Prince of Persia 4
Killing Day

Koei
Ni-oh

Also in developemnt...
Dark Secotr, Dirty Harry, Battle Angel, Alita, Project Avalon, Endless Saga, Lair, Possession, Death Jr., Metronome, Psychopath, FF XIII, Alan Wake

source http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=39199

What I find weird is that a Marvel MMORPG is listed as being in development for the PS3 when Microsoft has exclusive rights to develop and publish them.

"Under the terms of the agreement, Microsoft has obtained the exclusive rights to develop and publish massively multiplayer online games (MMOGs) featuring Marvel\'s iconic universe of Super Heroes for use in games developed for the Xbox 360 system and published by Microsoft Game Studios."
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Maybe it\'s a typo and they meant a DC MMORPG, which Sony has exclusive rights to.
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