JFK

[Viper_Fujax]

So i was up late..and saw this thing about the magic bullet on the discovery channel.

unfortunately..iv grown a little obsessed with figuring stuff out,lol (wish i didnt watch the damn show).

I thought it was really interesting that they reenacted it with these things made in austrailia that are identical to the human body (more specifically, kennedy and the governor in front of him), and they were able to get at the same height and distance that oswalt was at and was able to make the same number of wounds with one bullet that was unexplainable. Because people think that the governor was seated directly in front of kennedy, they think there is no way one bullet couldve hit both of them like it did. But the seat was made so he was seated lower than kennedy, and more to the left, so the bullet had the angle to hit them both. So they pretty much proved it didnt have to be a "magic" bullet.

another interesting thing was the "badge" man that was in the picture of the grassy knoll. I have no idea what to make of it. I thought i saw a face in one of the pictures, but its super grainy so i couldnt tell. They said he wouldve had to have been 2 feet tall to be positioned behind the fence like the picture shows, but i dont get why he couldnt have been knealing, or why he had to have been 2 feet in the first place.

last thought..kinda disgusting but its on my mind. If Oswalt was supposedly behind kennedy (thats why the bullet went through kennedy\'s back first then hit the governor), why did kennedy\'s head go on the back of the car? wouldnt it go foreward? so someone would have had to shoot from his front?

sorry for being random..but i saw it..and its on my mind.

[Paul2]

yeah, I remember seeing possibly the same show you watched like months ago for JFK 40th anniversary I believe.

So, that seem to prove Lee Oswald acted alone and there is no magic bullet.

Originally posted by Viper_Fujax


last thought..kinda disgusting but its on my mind. If Oswalt was supposedly behind kennedy (thats why the bullet went through kennedy\'s back first then hit the governor), why did kennedy\'s head go on the back of the car? wouldnt it go foreward? so someone would have had to shoot from his front?

sorry for being random..but i saw it..and its on my mind.

Kennedy wore a back brace. He had a lot of health problems.

[Jumpman]

The fact is, there were tons of people who said they SAW shots come from the grassy knoll. They are better sources than some 30 year later Aussie documentary. If Oswald did do it, then he must be the greatest rifle man of all time. Firing 3 precise shots in under 6 seconds with a subpar rifle.

Just watch the video...there are clearly 4 shots and then there was a man hit by a ricochet also(first shot also reportedly missed car completely). The fact that the federal government said there was only 3 shots in the Warren Commision was a flat out LIE.

Going back to the governor thing..."thick bones, dense skin", or something like that. "Oswald\'s" rifle wasn\'t powerful enough to do that much damage in one shot. You can clearly see when Kennedy gets hit in the back the governor has clearly NOT been hit. I look at it this way...3 shots(accordingly to government)...3 shooters. First shot is always the best too.

If you\'re going to buy that Oswald did it, then you might as well by the whole Ruby incident too. Yeah um I don\'t like this guy who I\'ve been seen with before, out of the good of my heart I\'m going to spare Jackie to testify and kill this guy and I\'ll die pretty soon anyway. Please.

I could go on forever. I\'m just going to finish with there is no way Oswald did the shooting alone. Too many signs of a conspiracy and  they all add up.

[GmanJoe]

LBJ had him killed.

Oswal was never the real killer

[GmanJoe]

Originally posted by Unicron!
Oswal was never the real killer

One thing for sure, he was the scape goat. Most people believe it was an American who had him killed. Some think it was Vice President Johnson.

[Jumpman]

Never underestimate the influence of big industries over a government. I think it was someone within the oil or arms bussiness who payed the killers but who actually knew about it is difficult to judge. Johnson orderering the car to be cleaned thereby destroying the evidence is hugely suspicious. But he never ran for election again which kind of kills that argument.

[GmanJoe]

He did run for pres and won, but for only one term (on top of finishing off JFK\'s term)

[Jumpman]

Well yeah then he stopped even though I think he could of went for another one.

[GmanJoe]

He knew he\'d lose coz of Vietnam. Nixon would have been his opponent and I doubt he could have beaten him. He died in \'72 anyway.

[Jumpman]

Yeah...I agree then.

But there\'s a library here for him in Austin. Shady people always get great tributes to them.

Originally posted by Jumpman
Never underestimate the influence of big industries over a government. I think it was someone within the oil or arms bussiness who payed the killers but who actually knew about it is difficult to judge. Johnson orderering the car to be cleaned thereby destroying the evidence is hugely suspicious. But he never ran for election again which kind of kills that argument.

Originally posted by GmanJoe
He did run for pres and won, but for only one term (on top of finishing off JFK\'s term)

 Not strange if Johnson had connections with that big industry or if he was warned by the CIA to cover the evidence otherwise he would suffer consiquences.
I think CIA also had to do with it.And it was and is involved with many illegal trades including drag dealing.Some were going to gain a lot from the vietnam war.
(for example:Secret services used to collaborate with the communist leader of Panama at importing drugs in the USA)


Also I dont know if it was true but some had the paranoid impression that JFK had good relations with communists.

[Viper_Fujax]

Originally posted by Jumpman
The fact is, there were tons of people who said they SAW shots come from the grassy knoll. They are better sources than some 30 year later Aussie documentary. If Oswald did do it, then he must be the greatest rifle man of all time. Firing 3 precise shots in under 6 seconds with a subpar rifle.

Just watch the video...there are clearly 4 shots and then there was a man hit by a ricochet also(first shot also reportedly missed car completely). The fact that the federal government said there was only 3 shots in the Warren Commision was a flat out LIE.

Going back to the governor thing..."thick bones, dense skin", or something like that. "Oswald\'s" rifle wasn\'t powerful enough to do that much damage in one shot. You can clearly see when Kennedy gets hit in the back the governor has clearly NOT been hit. I look at it this way...3 shots(accordingly to government)...3 shooters. First shot is always the best too.

actually, you can see the governor react when kennedy was first shot, after they come in view from behind a sign that is in the way of the camera. Whether it was enough of a reaction that would mean he got shot i have no idea. But they used the same rifle oswalt used and the same bullet and it worked.

but like i said on the last part of my first post (ill rephrase it better/not sugar coated)...if oswald was behind him, how come kennedy\'s head (on the head shot) sprayed to on the back of the car? if oswalt was behind him wouldnt it go towards the front of the car?

i definitly dont know enough to make any arguements though so im not saying whether theres a conspiracy or if oswald did it. but i definitly thought of how oswalt could possibly reload that fast and get 3 hits.

They didnt show the video enough to decide if there were 4 shots or not. They did some weird calculation because one of the cops\' mic was on so they could hear 4 shots, but 3 of the shots were the volume they shouldve been then there was a 4th one that didnt match. They said that proved there wer 3 shots but wouldnt that almost prove the 4th came from somewhere else?