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Offline Ghettomath
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« on: November 26, 2005, 06:25:46 PM »
The U.S. is approaching its 1,000 execution since 1977.

Read here:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051125/ap_on_re_us/1000_executions

What do you guys think? Chalk one up for American justice? Or is it sick-and-twisted, cruel-and-unusual punishment?

What about you people from foreign countries? What methods of execution are used in your country? Do you approve/support America\'s history of executions?
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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2005, 07:17:30 PM »
didn\'t realize we cut off hands for stealing in the US.
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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2005, 07:31:13 PM »
Wow, I learned a lot reading that link.

I didn\'t thought about what if innocents people were being executed for something they didn\'t do?  Interesting.  I also learned the word "exoneration", heh, cool fancy law terms...

That link makes me think quite a lot, and makes me realize why now people aren\'t as supportive of execution as they were before.

As for me, I don\'t support execution.  Well, it depends.  Unless DNA can proven a person guilty and depend how bad the felonies are.  Like if the suspect killed a lot of  people or very maliciously tortured and murder a person to death especially for no or very unfair reasons.  I guess that is the exception.

Me personally, I don\'t like being falsely accused or misunderstood.  So, what if there are some people that are actually innocent but were given the death sentence.  That would be awful.

It also makes me wonder about test lie detector.  Do you guys think that may work?
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2005, 07:35:18 PM »
proven innocent by DNA is mostly bullshit

it\'s not false/postive
more like \'inconclusive\'
why were they a suspect in the first place?
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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2005, 07:41:02 PM »
No human should have to die for crimes.

Besides killing them is the easy way out; Life in prison is torture.:crying: :op:
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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2005, 08:27:39 PM »
you gonna pay for it?
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2005, 08:34:01 PM »
if i knew a solid percentage of how many innocent people get stuck in death row, and if that number was high enough to justify getting rid of it, then i would.

however, im going to live my life tomorrow the same whether a criminal is killed or in jail for the rest of his life, so like mm pointed out, id rather have my tax money not go towards these assholes who put themselves in thier \'predicament\'.
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« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2005, 05:58:59 AM »
Bah.. I think we are way too leniant.  If someone kills someone and we know it to be true, fucking kill them right away...  Then maybe the next person will think twice about it.  1st degree murderers should all be killed iediately after their trial.
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« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2005, 08:18:29 AM »
Yup, less money on the taxpayers, sooner they die the better, I think when I did a paper on this though death row and life in prison the cost\'s come out to be very similiar

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« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2005, 02:40:13 PM »
^

Uhh... no - its way cheaper to just kill them.

But you have to remember this is human life- not just trying to save money. They may not respect the value of human life, thats why they are criminals, but shouldn\'t we?
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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2005, 02:53:00 PM »
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Yup, less money on the taxpayers, sooner they die the better, I think when I did a paper on this though death row and life in prison the cost\'s come out to be very similiar


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Uhh... no - its way cheaper to just kill them.

But you have to remember this is human life- not just trying to save money. They may not respect the value of human life, thats why they are criminals, but shouldn\'t we?


Actually, you are wrong E. It is cheaper to keep them in prison and support them due to appeals. I have done a ton of research on this and as of about three years ago, the average appeal over the course of 20 plus years ended up being cheaper on the tax payers. It is one of the main arguments the anti-death penatly people use.

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« Reply #11 on: November 27, 2005, 03:21:49 PM »
Are you taking into account if you killed them all you wouldnt have to build giant prison facilities, hire guards, feed them, clothe them etc. ?

I just dont understand how it would be cheaper... :shrug:
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« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2005, 03:32:03 PM »
send them all to australia

...wait, that was tried already
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« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2005, 04:21:40 PM »
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Are you taking into account if you killed them all you wouldnt have to build giant prison facilities, hire guards, feed them, clothe them etc. ?

I just dont understand how it would be cheaper... :shrug:


Because it takes about 20 years to kill them.  All the while racking up lawyer bills and high security prison with a cell all to your own..

If they don\'t have death, they just rot in prison usually with a roomate.
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« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2005, 06:06:48 PM »
I support execution if the person is proven guilty beyond doubt. And if they can\'t be rehabilitated and show no remorse.
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