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« on: January 11, 2006, 08:51:54 PM »
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6142242.html


$1800 for a blueray player:stick: When I expect ps3 will be $500.
Thats still a lot of doe. $400 is high for the 360. I don\'t think this console can retail for $699 sticker price. There is noway they would sell many consoles at that price.

Shit $500 is high enough I know I will only have one console for a while. I can\'t afford a 360 purchase and ps3. I have already chosen to put my money down on ps3. Just hope it worth the high price tag.
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« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2006, 09:03:42 PM »
My guess would be PS3 will cost $500 during launch time, or maybe less.  But no higher than $500.  Again, just a guess.

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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2006, 09:35:45 PM »
Just as an aside, when VHS VCRs were launched, the first models easily crept into the $2k and even $3k range.  And this is not even adjusting for inflation.

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« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2006, 09:49:30 PM »
I wonder what would be the difference between the stand alone player and the PS3 !? Maybe the PS3 can\'t do/play some media the sa-player can ?!
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« Reply #4 on: January 12, 2006, 12:42:22 AM »
well, standalone blu ray player costing $1,000 and over will have a better build quality.  Like the case are made of better metal quality over the plastic like of cheaper player.  On screen LCD to show you timer, chapter, Titlet, etc, not to mention bigger power supply inside the player.  And also, they probably uses 2 or 3 seperate lasers pickup instead of 1 that PS3 uses.  Maybe better video processor for Blu Ray movies than PS3...

But most of that shouldn\'t matter if picture accuracy and performance isn\'t good.  Believe me, I read about DVD players costing $1,000 and more that have poor deinterlacing and sometimes video processing too.

But I do believe PS3 will have pretty accurate video accuracy and performance for Blu Ray Movies, yet costing cheaper than some stand-a-lone Blu Ray players that cost much more, but have some inaccurate video performance and below average...again, this is just speculation.

Why I believe PS3 will have accurate video accuracy and decent performance is because I judge how well PS2 process in picture accuracy for DVD video and videogames.

I also read that PS3 can process 12 bits per channel for each RGB channel and output it via HDMI...actually, Sony would hope 16 bits per channel.  I was thinking, wow, it\'s really necessary to use that much bit depth per channel and just how did Sony manage to do that but still try to keep the cost of PS3 down?

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« Reply #5 on: January 12, 2006, 12:46:41 AM »
here is a link  where Sony mention about 16 bits per channel processing...

and here is a part of it:
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Kutaragi let slip one bit about the PS3\'s next generationness (it\'s a word -- look it up!). According to Kutaragi, Sony is hoping to make the PlayStation 3 compatible with the next generation of HDMI output (HDMI is a type of connection that will likely be required for viewing movies in high definition). The current generation of HDMI offers 8-bit levels for each color channel. The next generation of HDMI will offer 16-bit levels. "It\'s meaningless to process at 16 bit internally and then output at 8 bit," Kutaragi commented. "We\'d like to have sixteen bit, or at the very least, 12 bit."


Interesting...

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« Reply #6 on: January 12, 2006, 04:24:07 AM »
If PS3 costs that much, Nintendo is going to find it a lot easier to sell systems. Hope they can make enough to keep up with demand.

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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2006, 03:54:45 AM »
This just in ...

Sony will not launch the PS3 for more then $449

I will say $399

stop thinking it will be more.. it won\'t Sony has 3 different very important technologies that could make or break Sony\'s future and existence if they fail.

PS3
Cel
Bluray

Sony needs to get as many PS3\'s in the hands of consumers ASAP after release, and then start working the bluray movie magic.

Once they\'ve estsablished this userbase, bluray will get stronger benefiting Sony with licensing an dmovie sales

Sony can also use the PS3 to further drive the cel technologies by establiishing it in the industry via the PS3, drivng down future pricing fo rthe cel chip and feeding cel R&D

The Playstation name is launching many new Sony techologies, but Sony only benefits from these techologies if they can get them into consumers hands.

At $500 or more man consumers are not going to be in much of hurry, however at $399 people will jump on it. Sony is not going ot do anything that will slow PS3 sales, SOny wants the PS3 to fly out of the gate an dleave no doubts.


$399 that the price I\'m sticking with based upon what Sony is trying to achieve. Sell the hardware at a loss, but make Billions in the end... This has been done before, and Sony knows how this all works.



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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2006, 06:47:57 AM »
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Originally posted by ddaryl
This just in ...

Sony will not launch the PS3 for more then $449

I will say $399

stop thinking it will be more.. it won\'t Sony has 3 different very important technologies that could make or break Sony\'s future and existence if they fail.

PS3
Cel
Bluray

Sony needs to get as many PS3\'s in the hands of consumers ASAP after release, and then start working the bluray movie magic.

Once they\'ve estsablished this userbase, bluray will get stronger benefiting Sony with licensing an dmovie sales

Sony can also use the PS3 to further drive the cel technologies by establiishing it in the industry via the PS3, drivng down future pricing fo rthe cel chip and feeding cel R&D

The Playstation name is launching many new Sony techologies, but Sony only benefits from these techologies if they can get them into consumers hands.

At $500 or more man consumers are not going to be in much of hurry, however at $399 people will jump on it. Sony is not going ot do anything that will slow PS3 sales, SOny wants the PS3 to fly out of the gate an dleave no doubts.


$399 that the price I\'m sticking with based upon what Sony is trying to achieve. Sell the hardware at a loss, but make Billions in the end... This has been done before, and Sony knows how this all works.


At first they speculated ps3 would cost 494 to make. Now they are saying blueray is pushing the cost of ps3 higher. If they do sell it for $399. Sony will be losing the price of xbox360 core system on each console:eek:
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2006, 07:08:07 AM »
stop worrying about your PS3 pricetag

standalone players are overpriced yeah you also pay for brand and some slick front bezel material

why would i pay for Xb360 when i got a X2 4800 pc very soon ? (xb360 library is pc port-a-licious as we speak already)

PS3 and Rev will deserve my money though.
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« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2006, 08:01:34 AM »
There are several things a standlone will do better than the PS3:

- smoother ff/rw & slomo
- menu load times
- player noise
- seamless branching (jumping layers)
- disc errors (basing this on previous console movie players)
- mpeg-4/vc-1 chipset quality
- video DAC quality (for component output)

All of which can add up to an extra $500, which makes sense.  Processing those next-gen codecs is a huge strain, and the first generation of players are still trying to figure out the best ways to do it.

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« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2006, 08:26:39 AM »
Maybe, but a standalone blu ray player or hd dvd player or even a pc internal version of those won\'t be able to play MGS4 or any of those other PS3 games.

The ONLY thing which matters is the fact that my fav game developers focus on PS3 coding. That\'s where their effort and time goes into and nothing else.

and i don\'t ff-ing care about EA\'s crappy multiplatform games nor about sportsgames.
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2006, 04:24:02 AM »
I refuse to pay even $400 for a system. I remember the $250 with a pack-in game days. Screw this $300 with nothing and now maybe $400 or more.

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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2006, 04:37:16 AM »
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The ONLY thing which matters is the fact that my fav game developers focus on PS3 coding. That\'s where their effort and time goes into and nothing else.
 


This is very true. I work at a games studio and we always focus on the PS2 title regardless of how many platforms its been released on - reason being, we sell more of the PS2 unit.

Same will apply for PS3 if they get the market share, its just the highest common denominator.

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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2006, 06:05:33 PM »
Rumor has it ps3 may be delayed. They say it is a bitch to program for and the games won\'t be ready in time. I am hoping this is not the case.

When  you think about sony has not been saying nothing much about it and ps3 is supose to launch in spring. I don\'t think the games will be ready in time either.

I guess I\'ll be forced to get a 360.
« Last Edit: January 31, 2006, 06:11:08 PM by QuDDus »
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