Black History Month Still Relevant?

Originally posted by clips
point is that you will never be treated differently specifically for the color of your skin...capeesh?.....

Unless we\'re talking to you.

Us white folks, I mean. ;]

-Dan

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Originally posted by mjps21983
What I\'m trying to say is that all you see on the news is white man beating down the black man, you would never see the black cop beating up a crook or vice versa, just like with the muslims, they can talk and say all the bullshit they want on al jazeera but someone writes some funny comics in Denmark and theres a shit storm about it.

that\'s because black cops never beat anybody down..they treat everybody with dignity and respect!.....listen i\'m not on some crusade to rights the wrong of every racial incident...All i\'am saying and have been saying is that racism is here for good, but i just don\'t like when white folk act like it doesn\'t exist....And that having bhm,...in the grand scheme of things probably isn\'t even needed at this point, but i feel it\'s perfectly harmless if it\'s left in tact as well...

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Originally posted by Eiksirf
Unless we\'re talking to you.

Us white folks, I mean. ;]

-Dan

..i know whenever i get into these racial threads, i somehow will come off to some as sounding racist.....trust Eik, that is not the case. I\'ve hung out with all types of people and for the times that i\'ve hung out with some cool white peeps we\'ve always joked around with the racial stuff. nothing insulting, but y\'know the lighthearted stuff that you see that goes on in here.

it might seem like i don\'t like white people because in some ways i try to make my point, and that\'s exactly it...i\'m trying to make a point, ..i believe i can kick it with anybody in here,...regardless of race, and treat you just like if you were one of my menz that i hang out with...:fro:

clips...

If you\'re gonna reference the Diallo shooting, at least get your facts straight...

4 undercovers, searching for a suspect,  noticed a man constantly ducking in and out of an apartment building so they identified themselves and told him to stop. If I recall, they never asked for any ID. He just simply ignored them and reached into his pocket. This was a high crime area and it was dark so a wallet could easily be mistaken for a gun. They naturally paniced and, in the heat of the moment, fired. Amidst all the gunshots and confusion, no one would know where the shots were coming from so you can\'t totally fault them for continuously firing.

Its insane to think that they shot him on purpose.

Excessive, yes?

Murder, NO!

Prejudice and racism have been around since we started... I understand what your saying, I don\'t know about that black cop statement I\'ve met some pretty corrupt ones in my time.

Oh, by the way, clips...

Bad black cops?

Look at New Orleans and the Katrina incident...

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Originally posted by Ashford
Oh, by the way, clips...

Bad black cops?

Look at New Orleans and the Katrina incident...

i\'m not sure if that incident was diallo or not,..but i\'m sure that\'s how the situation went down. And this person was at his home. i remember reading the story when it happened. the cop went to the door, asked the guy for his ID, dude went into his wallet, and the guy yelled he has a gun...rest is history....as far as bad black cops?..c\'mon ash there are bad black cops as well.....but that goes without saying doesn\'t it?

i\'m not really sure what those cops in N.O. was doing. i\'ve heard stories of them stealing cars from dealerships, only to be told that they tryin to salvage cars that they could save FOR the dealerships..:rolleyes:..i know alot of them were involved in the looting, but to some degree i don\'t blame them...i mean if the whole force is depleted and you\'re outnumbered a hundred to one,..especially with escaped convicts that have guns bigger than you, i don\'t think i would have been tryin to play hero....that goes for whether the cop was black or white....that whole katrina thing was just plain ugly overall...

Originally posted by clips
there will always be asshole cops..no doubt everybody will get picked on at some time or another for whatever reason, the point is that you will never be treated differently specifically for the color of your skin...capeesh?.....buying a house, renting...job etc..

That last part is right - you guys qualify for more special government programs than us cracka\'s.  For the same home, I would pay quite a bit more than a minority.

Also, bad things have happened to white people - we just don\'t dwell on it.  Europe went through feudalism where most people were tied to the land that royality owned.  They were essentially slaves themselves.  Just look throughout history clips - bad things happen all the time.  If you really want to blame someone for slavery - blame the people living in Africa who sold your ancestors into slavery.  Us white folk weren\'t brave enough to leave the coastal areas and venture far inland enough to round up slaves.  

Anyway, back to the point - I don\'t think Black History Month (when did it become African American History Month?) is necessary.  As a few have said, if you want to stop people looking at each others race, then stop having a month dedicated to one race.  BTW clips when was the last time you saw a white person, after all you live in Atlanta.

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Originally posted by GigaShadow
That last part is right - you guys qualify for more special government programs than us cracka\'s.  For the same home, I would pay quite a bit more than a minority.

Also, bad things have happened to white people - we just don\'t dwell on it.  Europe went through feudalism where most people were tied to the land that royality owned.  They were essentially slaves themselves.  Just look throughout history clips - bad things happen all the time.  If you really want to blame someone for slavery - blame the people living in Africa who sold your ancestors into slavery.  Us white folk weren\'t brave enough to leave the coastal areas and venture far inland enough to round up slaves.  

Anyway, back to the point - I don\'t think Black History Month (when did it become African American History Month?) is necessary.  As a few have said, if you want to stop people looking at each others race, then stop having a month dedicated to one race.  BTW clips when was the last time you saw a white person, after all you live in Atlanta.

well i wish i could\'ve bought a home using one of those programs...i\'ve bought my home the old fashioned way...saved up, put some money down, that\'s it...i\'m sure they have special housing programs of some sort for minorities but i would have to believe that the area for that home in particular,..wouldn\'t be that great...i\'ve stated what i had to say about black history month already so i won\'t address that furhter,..but the slave thing yea it\'s tru that some african nations sold their own, but at the same token those europeans that came thru there wasn\'t lookin to knock back a six pack with them either......oh and white people?.heh they are all over the place...i think all that "atlanta is great for black business" is wee bit overrated....atlanta is just like any other major city imo..it\'s just cleaner than most of them...

and i actually live about 40 miles outside of atlana..

Originally posted by clips
y\'know..as much as you white folk want to believe we\'re living in a "perfect utopia"...you need to pull that bulls**t from your eyelids...i would love for everybody in america to be considered an american without lookin at race. but sadly that is not the case,...i\'m not gonna go thru the song and dance of stories i\'ve told countless times already. Point is that if some white folk weren\'t racist from the jump,..there would be no need for affirimitive action or any type of race acknowledgement month...

the 60\'s actually wasn\'t that long ago,..and trust nobody\'s livin in the past but there are those in power today that still have that same mindset. that is why we still need these types of racial equality programs and acknowledgements...so don\'t blame us for african american month or things of that nature..you wanna blame somebody..start by lookin in the mirror...

First off, quit saying "you white folk." Kidding or not, you wouldn\'t appreciate me saying "you black folk." Morgan Freeman is black, so its not just "us white folk."  And I understand it would be your first impulse that we don\'t understand. The fact is you don\'t. For years we have been growing up learning about these african-AMERICANS and the accomplishments they made for OUR country. We aren\'t blind to that. Yes, take pride for the accomplistments we all should. But don\'t take pride because they were black.

Yes, there are racial crimes still going on. But the sad truth is you can\'t get rid of that no matter how aware someone is of black history or black culture. There are ignorant people out there that will live in their own world. There will always be whites killing blacks, blacks killing whites, and so on.

Black history month has done its job, and all its doing is segregating blacks. The sad thing is white people realize its holding back society, and blacks see it as an attack on their progress in society.

You also blame our last grandfathers for the reason it exists. I think thats fucked up. Put the past behind us, and just remember it. Thats all you can do. Black history month is keeping that past alive.

For the record, I think MLK is the greatest American that has ever lived.

I like all history.  I don\'t mind black history month anymore than I would an italian history month, or welsh history month.  Bring on the chittlins!!!!

I have to say though, if it\'s still going on when all my hair is white I\'m gonna have to find clips and ram his wheelchair into a busy intersection. :bash:

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Originally posted by Halberto
First off, quit saying "you white folk." Kidding or not, you wouldn\'t appreciate me saying "you black folk." Morgan Freeman is black, so its not just "us white folk."  And I understand it would be your first impulse that we don\'t understand. The fact is you don\'t. For years we have been growing up learning about these african-AMERICANS and the accomplishments they made for OUR country. We aren\'t blind to that. Yes, take pride for the accomplistments we all should. But don\'t take pride because they were black.

Yes, there are racial crimes still going on. But the sad truth is you can\'t get rid of that no matter how aware someone is of black history or black culture. There are ignorant people out there that will live in their own world. There will always be whites killing blacks, blacks killing whites, and so on.

Black history month has done its job, and all its doing is segregating blacks. The sad thing is white people realize its holding back society, and blacks see it as an attack on their progress in society.

You also blame our last grandfathers for the reason it exists. I think thats fucked up. Put the past behind us, and just remember it. Thats all you can do. Black history month is keeping that past alive.

i thought i was done with this....i get the feeling you just chimed in without reading any of my previous postings,..because everything you just stated is what i\'ve said already. go back and read what i wrote..And "white folk"...c\'mon man i already stated when we get into these racial threads i have to use those terms to get my point across...it\'s not insulting it\'s just to get my point across....amd how many times have we seen the quote "crazy black people" on these boards?...riiight..countless times and you don\'t see me ever pissin a bitch about it,..cause it\'s lighthearted stuff. so don\'t come at me with that bulls**t..."uhm stop sayin white folk" ..:rolleyes:....when you get involved in these types of discussions, you should be mature enough to see that at least i\'m just using those terms just to get my point across.

but i see your point and others as well. and i can see why you seem to think the month is putting afri. americans back. but that point clearly depends on the individual. if that person is walking around mad at the world, then of course that person is doomed to live in the past forever. ultimately at the end of the day there are bad "people" in the world period...And i can see how uncomfortable it can make some white folk feel when they\'re confronted with bhm. I know it kinda feels like it\'s forved upon you when you see it being broadcast all over the place. I think it\'s main forum should be in places of education tho....to be honset when i used to work in jersey, and my job used to set up props for bhm..it seemed like some of the white people where being extra nice.......seriously so i do understand how it can make people feel uncomfortable. the more i think about it, the more i feel that it\'s direction should focused more in schools and education....yeah looking at it from your point of view i can definitely see how it can kinda make you feel uncomfortable..

And thx...i luv you too...

Originally posted by mjps21983
You act like white people never get mistreated though or anyone that is not a minority for that matter.

Hey show me the tape of four black cops beating the shit out of a  white guy and I will kiss your ass.

Fuck know we still need black history month. Until african american history does not have to be taught as a seperate study. How can you say get rid of it. African american history is an integral part of american history.

But in suburban white schools they don\'t teach shit regarding african american history. My niece is in 3rd grade goes to some high priced suburb school near hear home. Think they ever bring up Frederick Douglass at her school? Umm...........no


I knew the typical reply here would be get rid of it. I guess without the lil 28 days to remind whitey of how bad he treated us blacks he wouldn\'t have nothing to feel guilty about:rolleyes:

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On leap years do we still have to hug black people for that extra day?

This thread is getting out of hand.

I wish I had a slave I could make read it for me.

-Dan