Predictions for PS3 vs 360

The article speaks of Microsoft as a whole. The arguement was if the Xbox system profited at all and it did.



man what

I\'ll just assume english isn\'t your first language and move on.

That article sais that XBOX made losses period.

the profits of just one year mean nothing. Especially if the years before it and after it made losses.

The result from 2001 until 2005 is what\'s important and the more reliable information. Especially for an investor.

Exactly 4 billion losses up to 2005 which is more important and more informative than 8.8 Billion profits in just 2004. You havent posted any total result atleast up to 2006 showing profits from XBOX1
But you posted only the profits in 2004. Not even up to 2004

Do you remember what came out in 2005? Yes, the 360. Looking up sales charts just for the Xbox will be near impossible since the 360 and it\'s predecessior are lumped into the same category. Even then, they haven\'t released their fiscal results.

No I am not debating that.

I am studying these things in the university. It could be my job to make financial analysis and build models to make predictions for rich people.

You want to be a financial analyst huh? That was one of the things I studied 2 years ago.

Didn\'t see much future in that. I just chose it at a whim because, at the time, I was largely undecided and just happen to be very good at math.

Do you remember what came out in 2005? Yes, the 360. Looking up sales charts just for the Xbox will be near impossible since the 360 and it\'s predecessior are lumped into the same category. Even then, they haven\'t released their fiscal results.

Dont complain why I mentioned how well the XBOX did from 2001 till 2005 then

You want to be a financial analyst huh? That was one of the things I studied 2 years ago.

Didn\'t see much future in that. I just chose it at a whim because, at the time, I was largely undecided and just happen to be very good at math.

You missed. Its pretty interesting really

That article sais that XBOX made losses period.

the profits of just one year mean nothing. Especially if the years before it and after it made losses.

The result from 2001 until 2005 is what\'s important and the more reliable information. Especially for an investor.

Let\'s make some things clear here.

Say there is a 4 year period in a companies product. First and second year, nothing but losses. In the third year, the company rakes in a huge amount of profit and invests it on a new product the following year. Does that negate it from being a profit to you?

Dont complain why I mentioned how well the XBOX did from 2001 till 2005 then

huh?

Let\'s make some things clear here.

Say there is a 4 year period in a companies product. In the third year, the company rakes in a huge amount of profits and invests it on a new product the following year. Does that negate it from being a profit to you?

I ll continue the question to see where I am getting to. Lets say that company invests the money that made from the fourth year into the fifth year and makes losses.
What will this mean to the investor?

 Also the prediction models and analysis will take place before the fifth year to make an estimation on how well the product will do. These models take all information available from all yeares and are being tested for significance to see if the product is indeed doing well or if indeed will continue to do well. A profit of just one year doesnt say much.

Let\'s make some things clear here.
huh?

Dude, 2005 was just last year. Why are you even bolding "since 2001?" 4 billion is the total result up to 2005.

Course of Profits/losses of 2001-2-3-4-5 (then 360 came thats why since 2001-2005)

Also the prediction models and analysis will take place before the fifth year to make an estimation on how well the product will do. These models take all information available from all yeares and are being tested for significance to see if the product is indeed doing well or if indeed will continue to do well. A profit of just one year doesnt say much.

Even if the profit overlapses that of the two previous years?

I ll continue the question to see where I am getting to. Lets say that company invests the money that made from the fourth year into the fifth year and makes losses.
What will this mean to the investor?

They should have known that because expecting profits in a new products first year is overreaching. Especially if they plan to sell at a loss, which many high profile products do.

Even if the profit overlapses that of the two previous years?

It may seem illogical but sometimes yes. This depends on the overal significance of the factors that made the product profitable all of the sudden. But as it seems 2005 overlapped 2004\'s profits. I think that this may mean that these factors werent significant.Thats probably why MS expected losses for 2004 as well.

They should have known that because expecting profits in a new products first year is overreaching. Especially if they plan to sell at a loss, which many high profile products do.

Its true I 100% agree. The first year may not be a good indication.
 But if it makes more losses than it is expected for a healthy product then this will show in the products later course.

Both good and bad products(not necessarilly saying that XBOX is a bad product) of the same kind (like consoles) will make losses when they launch. But most likely the bad will have more losses compared to the better products. To get a good idea of how well the product will do, you have to take all competiting products and see relative performance in the market.

edit: as it seems probably XBOX didnt perform well since the fifth year did worse than the fourth. Both far from launch

ehh

Seems like we came to an agreement. Just in time for lunch.

heh glad we solved this misunderstanding

 
-Dan

So you are jealous?

Here lets play together

The arguement was if the Xbox system profited at all and it did.

umm, no it didn\'t
it fucking tanked

great job looking for a single sentence you did not agree with and commenting on it, therefore ignoring what we just said

looking?  it stood out like a sore thumb