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mormons and catholics are christians...just some beliefs separate the two

Thats what I thought too

Don\'t I? I wasn\'t posting too much in the end of 2002, I believe, but I still came here from time to time.

Did you have a different name or something before?

[Viper_Fujax]

na. I didnt post that much when i was first around. dont really post insanely a lot now either. iv been floating since 2002 and im only at 1,600 posts. think i had more but i probably pissed mm off and he reduced my post count or something.

[Evi]

mormons and catholics are christians...just some beliefs separate the two

like..we have penises..and women have vaginas..but were both homos (thats my abbrev.)

anyywayy..you dont know me, person who started this thread.

Mormons aren\'t Christians and Christians aren\'t Mormons. The Book of Mormon completely miscontrues things from the bible. The beliefs are completely different and the belief of who Jesus and God is are completely different. It\'s not "some beliefs" that separate the two...it\'s a very LARGE gap that separates them.

Well, nice to meet you all the same. :P I am one of the oldies around here, although I have obviously had a LONG absence from the boards. I will be here, though. Can\'t get rid of me now. :P

[Evi]

Well I\'m glad one of the vets has rejoined our ranks.

Mormons aren\'t Christians and Christians aren\'t Mormons. The Book of Mormon completely miscontrues things from the bible. The beliefs are completely different and the belief of who Jesus and God is are completely different. It\'s not "some beliefs" that separate the two...it\'s a very LARGE gap that separates them.

That\'s not really fair. Looking objectively at Adventists and Jehovah\'s Witnesses, as well as Catholics (why not), all have some teachings that are completely different than other Christian churches, but apparently only Mormons aren\'t real Christians.

We believe in one God, one Jesus Christ, our Savior, and one Holy Ghost.

a direct quote from the Book of Mormon:

2 Nephi 25: 26

And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our cchildren may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sin.

Doesn\'t get more Christian than that.

[Evi]

The Mormon belief is that there are many Gods and that people can eventually grow to become Gods themselves. The belief is also that only the worthiest of Mormons will live with God and Jesus. They also don\'t don\'t believe Jesus is God, but two separate beings.

[Viper_Fujax]

Mormons aren\'t Christians and Christians aren\'t Mormons. The Book of Mormon completely miscontrues things from the bible. The beliefs are completely different and the belief of who Jesus and God is are completely different. It\'s not "some beliefs" that separate the two...it\'s a very LARGE gap that separates them.

i didnt mean to say "just"..was my bad.

The mormons in my neighborhood are adamantly not catholics, so theres obviously a large gap that separates the two. But..beast shows why theyre christians.

[Evi]

Christians have completely different beliefs regarding God and Jesus.

What age did mormons appear for the first time btw?

[Evi]

What age did mormons appear for the first time btw?

Like...200 years ago.

[Viper_Fujax]

i wikipedia\'d it because i dont know the whole background. I just remember hearing my teachers say mormons were christians (went to catholic school)

Nature of God
God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are often described in scripture as one God (2 Nephi 31:21); however, the one Godhead is in reality three separate beings who are unified in purpose and heart (John 17:21-23). This belief is distinguished from the concept of the Trinity as codified in 325 at the Council of Nicaea and in 381 at the Council of Constantinople.
God the Father and Jesus Christ have tangible, perfected bodies of flesh and bone. The Community of Christ (one denomination of Mormonism) has rejected this doctrine and that of the Godhead in favor of Trinitarian theology.
God himself was once a human in another realm or universe, created by a seperate god. Having gone through a mortal life much like in our realm, he sinned and repented and learned, and after becoming immortal he, along with his wife, Heavenly Mother, spiritually progressed to the level of gods.
Humans are children of a Father in Heaven, and through the Atonement of Jesus Christ they can return to Him and be joint-heirs with Christ of all that the Father has (Romans 8:17).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism and scroll to "typical mormon doctrines" for a nice layout of things. From what i understand, theres 2 different mormons? one group believes in the trinity and one doesnt? not too sure.

one of the sub-headings is "Mormonisms\' beliefs about other Christian and non-Christian religions"

any belief by any other church or churches more than that Christ is our savior makes them all different churches, some believe that by faith alone are we saved, other by being good people, other by praying and works, etc. Some believe we will be assimilated into one big being after death, others believe that we will praise God for the eternity (if we are lucky) after death, others (like my church) believe that God has given us the gift, as His children (not creatures), to become like He is. Some believe that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are 1 person, others 3 distinct persons with the same purpose, others don\'t even believe in the Holy Ghost.

and yet they are ALL Christians, but we aren\'t and identify with many of those beliefs.

And we certainly believe that Jesus Christ is God. He was the God of the Old Testament, Book of Mormon, and is the God that carries out the affairs of the Father. In the Bible, in John it even says that Jesus created the Earth, in Genesis it says that God did it, so how could we not believe that Jesus is a God? but, then again, in Genesis, during the creation, we also see that it says "We" (like in verse 26 of chapter 1), denoting that God and Jesus Christ were in fact both involved, not just one person.

but like I said, if we aren\'t Christians, I don\'t know what we would be, after all, it is in the churches name. We state that we literally ARE the church of Jesus Christ. That would be kind of hard to not be Christians unless it was all a joke and we actually told people once they got in the doors that Christ is actually not our savior. :P But then again, we don\'t do that. :P

i wikipedia\'d it because i dont know the whole background. I just remember hearing my teachers say mormons were christians (went to catholic school)

Nature of God
God the Father, Jesus, and the Holy Ghost are often described in scripture as one God (2 Nephi 31:21); however, the one Godhead is in reality three separate beings who are unified in purpose and heart (John 17:21-23). This belief is distinguished from the concept of the Trinity as codified in 325 at the Council of Nicaea and in 381 at the Council of Constantinople.
God the Father and Jesus Christ have tangible, perfected bodies of flesh and bone. The Community of Christ (one denomination of Mormonism) has rejected this doctrine and that of the Godhead in favor of Trinitarian theology.
God himself was once a human in another realm or universe, created by a seperate god. Having gone through a mortal life much like in our realm, he sinned and repented and learned, and after becoming immortal he, along with his wife, Heavenly Mother, spiritually progressed to the level of gods.
Humans are children of a Father in Heaven, and through the Atonement of Jesus Christ they can return to Him and be joint-heirs with Christ of all that the Father has (Romans 8:17).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism and scroll to "typical mormon doctrines" for a nice layout of things. From what i understand, theres 2 different mormons? one group believes in the trinity and one doesnt? not too sure.

one of the sub-headings is "Mormonisms\' beliefs about other Christian and non-Christian religions"

Not necessarily is all of that true. We believe, indeed, that "as man is, God once was, and as God is, man might become" But we don\'t believe that we was indeed a sinner, After all, Jesus Christ lived a perfectly clean life, free from sin, why couldn\'t God have lived like that, too? I guess that is where we separate ourselves from the rest of Christianity, too. We believe that God has given us, as heirs to everything he has (just like it says in the scriptures), the ability to become as he is, if we are diligent enough, obedient enough, etc.