Good Comparison Of Both Versions Of PS3

not crippled.  

As of right now, there is only one game that requires the HDD, Final Fantasy XI.  Soon there will be two, Football Manager (or whatever).  Every other game plays fine without the HDD.  Good thing is that you can easily buy a HDD and there\'s your premium 360.  

Thing with the PS3 is IF movie studios start to make ICT mandatory then all those who bought the $499 version are fucked as far as watching blu-ray movies go.  Same thing goes for Microsoft\'s HD-DVD drive, but at least you\'re not having to pay for it up front AND MS isn\'t touting it as a standard feature.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Hah

Anyone who buys the PS3 specifically for it\'s Blu-Ray capabilities should realize that $600 is a fucking steal.

As another plus, hopefully it\'ll aid in lowering the price of initial standalone Blu-Ray players to compete with it.

[Living-In-Clip]

I\'m in the same boat as Eik, the PS2 is my least played console, hell it\'s the only console I have ever given away. I gave my launch console away to my father when I moved out.. I will be rebuying one, but only for Guitar Hero. I just cannot imagine forking over that amount of money for the PS3, when I thought the PS2 was subpar in general.

Ok, but THAT is the whole problem...

A large (majority...?) of the world population isn\'t willing to buy a
Blu Ray player yet. Worldwide, a Blu Ray player @ € 500 would sell
nil.

That is the one thinking error which Sony is now making.

[Paul2]

I\'m in the same boat as Eik, the PS2 is my least played console, hell it\'s the only console I have ever given away. I gave my launch console away to my father when I moved out.. I will be rebuying one, but only for Guitar Hero. I just cannot imagine forking over that amount of money for the PS3, when I thought the PS2 was subpar in general.

well, maybe when you get HDTV, and when ps3 gets a couple hundred bucks cheaper, then you should appreciate what HD picture quality have to offer in both games and movies.

No !!!! you guys only see the USA situation.

The majority of the PAL regions are NOT... i repeat NOT.. gonna get a HDTV for the next 2 or 3 years. The VAT on such electronics, make the consumer price simply waaaaaay to high.

[Bobs_Hardware]

I\'m in the same boat as Eik, the PS2 is my least played console, hell it\'s the only console I have ever given away. I gave my launch console away to my father when I moved out.. I will be rebuying one, but only for Guitar Hero. I just cannot imagine forking over that amount of money for the PS3, when I thought the PS2 was subpar in general.

I think all the consoles were fairly sub-par.

I guess by default, that made them... par.

No !!!! you guys only see the USA situation.

The majority of the PAL regions are NOT... i repeat NOT.. gonna get a HDTV for the next 2 or 3 years. The VAT on such electronics, make the consumer price simply waaaaaay to high.

I dont know how the situation is in the rest of Europe, but in Sweden HDTVs are selling a whole lot more compared to just a year ago, when they were pretty hard to find (the inventory of avalible HDTV models have exploded).

You can get a pretty nice HDTV for about the same price as a good CRT SDTV television. One huge plus is that most new HDTVs are "HD Ready", meaning they have HDMI with HDCP (for Blu-Ray and HD-DVD etc).

IIRC it is expected that most televisions sold within the coming years will be HDTVs.

I would say that the average customer is pretty aware of HDTV now, it has been hyped by the media (newspapers and Sonys cool Bravia ad) for a while now. I just hope the national television channels hurry up with the HDTV broadcasts (they will be test-broadcasting via terrestrial signals during the World Championship in Football, you can already get HDTV via a sat-dish though). :/

[Living-In-Clip]

well, maybe when you get HDTV, and when ps3 gets a couple hundred bucks cheaper, then you should appreciate what HD picture quality have to offer in both games and movies.

....I have an HDTV, I\'ve had one for awhile now.. Thank\'s tho! I love the argument that if you own an HDTV, then get a PS3. I own an HDTV, I didn\'t rush out to buy an Xbox 360, did I?

I think all the consoles were fairly sub-par.

Minus the DC, yes, they all sucked.

I own an HDTV, I didn\'t rush out to buy an Xbox 360, did I?

Because you were waiting for PS3?

[Living-In-Clip]

Because you were waiting for PS3?

..Uhm, no.
Because it is also over-priced (but thanks to Sony, it is now the cheaper of the two) and the launch was botched.

Why is it over priced?

Ok, but THAT is the whole problem...

A large (majority...?) of the world population isn\'t willing to buy a
Blu Ray player yet. Worldwide, a Blu Ray player @ € 500 would sell
nil.

That is the one thinking error which Sony is now making.

So I\'m going to ask a question to everyone

Would you rather have Sony put last generation technology (DVD) inside the PS3 just to make it cheaper?  Remember the benefits bluray can have for games as well as the PS3 is suppose to have a lifespan of 7+ years.  

Why do you want to cripple the PS3?  In a couple of years,  when all the good games are out it will be $400 in the US.  So why complain about the price of bluray now?  There won\'t be any good games for a year and Sony will eventually drop the price around the time they start appearing.  

Including bluray,  even at a high price is Sony looking forward to the future.  Sure the sells of the console may slow after the initial rush,  but when the price starts dropping and MGS4,  FFXIII and others start appearing the PS3 will fly off the shelves.  So after 2-3 years you will have a current generation bluray player and all the top games.  Meanwhile MS will be busy building their new xbox with HD-DVD or something.  I see MS releasing their new console when the PS3 still has 2-3 years left on it\'s lifespan.  

The point of all this?  Most of you guys not liking the price etc will buy one a year or two from now when the bugs are worked out and the price is lower and all the games are out.  You will then realize that Sony made the right choice in including nextgen bluray to make the console future proof.

Is there really good reason to buy PS3 on launch at it\'s high price tag?  No.  But,  you know as well as I do,  some of us are videophiles etc,  so we need the latest and greatest technology.  Madden 07,  GranTurismo HD and some of my other favorites that will appear soon after launch won\'t hurt either...

[Living-In-Clip]

Why do you want to cripple the PS3? In a couple of years, when all the good games are out it will be $400 in the US. So why complain about the price of bluray now? There won\'t be any good games for a year and Sony will eventually drop the price around the time they start appearing.

I love this quote. You are saying right now, that the price tag is warranted even though there will not be " any good games for a year " . So, in reality, you are saying, that you want to pay $600 dollars for a dust collector for a year?

The rest of your post is pure nonsense because all it does is reference to "in a year from now" , "when the price drops" and things that can\'t be accounted for because they simply have not happened.


Oh and Uni, any videogame system above $350 is over priced in my opinion. Game systems are meant for games. At least MS knew this much, but they still missed the target price.

P.S - I\'m sick and tired of hearing about this 7 - 10 year lifespan. Will the PS3 be around for that long ? Yes, hell they just now stopped producing the friggin\' Psone, but let\'s not kid ourselves, the PS4 will be out in four to five years and provided this board is still around, the same damn subject will be up and goin\', yet again.

Oh and Uni, any videogame system above $350 is over priced in my opinion. Game systems are meant for games. At least MS knew this much, but they still missed the target price.

That doesnt mean its overpriced.

You dont belong to the consumer kind that the product targets. Simple. Its price is more expensive in regards to what, specifically you, seek from it.