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About the Atari Jaguar and Mega CD add on..

Ow boy ....  Sega\'s add on\'s like the Mega CD and 32X are the things which pissed off , once Sega fans like me and many others.

The Atari Jaguar ? Even though the market has changed and one cannot make a direct comparison... buying a PS3 is ALOT wiser choice.

You can\'t even compare the two. Different market completely - it\'s insane to even compare them. The Jaguar was doomed from Atari\'s piss-poor effort. There was no direction with that system, it was just a cheap attempt to get back into the market.

As for the SEGA add-on comment, preaching to the choir. I owned both the 32X and the Sega CD. The Sega CD actually wasn\'t that bad, overlooked, I think. The 32X on the other hand was a diaster.

Oh and do you own a Virtual Boy? It may of caused headaches for some people, but it actually had some fun games. I never claimed it to be a brilliant product, I simply stated that lack of marketing or lack of way to market that item killed it before it ever actually had a chance.

Oh and two more things.

1: Since when did buying a certain console become a wise choice? You make it sound like it will be a life altering experience. It\'s a piece of plastic and electronics. Let\'s not make it out to be more than that.

2: If you can\'t make a direct comparison, which you admit, can\'t be done ..Then why even bring it up?

You can\'t even compare the two. Different market completely - it\'s insane to even compare them. The Jaguar was doomed from Atari\'s piss-poor effort. There was no direction with that system, it was just a cheap attempt to get back into the market.

As for the SEGA add-on comment, preaching to the choir. I owned both the 32X and the Sega CD. The Sega CD actually wasn\'t that bad, overlooked, I think. The 32X on the other hand was a diaster.

Oh and do you own a Virtual Boy? It may of caused headaches for some people, but it actually had some fun games. I never claimed it to be a brilliant product, I simply stated that lack of marketing or lack of way to market that item killed it before it ever actually had a chance.

Oh and two more things.

1: Since when did buying a certain console become a wise choice? You make it sound like it will be a life altering experience. It\'s a piece of plastic and electronics. Let\'s not make it out to be more than that.

2: If you can\'t make a direct comparison, which you admit, can\'t be done ..Then why even bring it up?

Atari\'s Jaguar might have had a chance if the thing hadn\'t cost THAT much more than the SNES and Megadrive of that time and if the controller wasn\'t so stupendous.

Virtual Boy ; ah.. well, there seems to have been (medical) investigation into the effect it caused to alot of ppl. I suggest googling it becuz i remember some articles on it how it induced headaches / nausea.

At the time, i had a Megadrive, but the market was slowly getting into a slump and i really did thoroughly investigate the benefits of Sega\'s new addon\'s like the Mega CD drive and the 32X. After seeing the games for those add on\'s and reading the reviews, it was a wise choice afterall to NOT spend my highschool cash on them.

About \'wise choices\' ; this is our hobby after all. It costs time & money. I didn\'t mean it that deep, but within those boundaries of hobbyism there are wise and less wise choices to be made. I am glad the choices i made were a good thing for me  ; not buying 3D0, Mega CD & 32X ,amongst gaming choices.

Anyway, i see so much PS3 bashing and added to that the online ranting about pricepoint ; yes , there are certain similarities to draw to Jaguar, since that one also promised new levels of gaming at a steep price.

Anyway, i see so much PS3 bashing and added to that the online ranting about pricepoint ; yes , there are certain similarities to draw to Jaguar, since that one also promised new levels of gaming at a steep price.

But when the effort is there thats not a similarity anymore. Attari promised but offered almost only 2D 16-bit games. The price was inexcusable. The consumer couldnt get the utility refelcted from the price because it wasnt there.
 
PS3 is expensive but the games, support, performance and franchises are there plus some other features. The price has increased into such an extend due to its effort to offer too much that people want one but cant get one.

Personally I see no similarity except from the "title put on the cover"

The Atari Jaguar was introduced by Atari as a 64bit console even before N64.

It did feature some 3D games on it but it wasn\'t any substantial improvement upon games like StarFox, or Sega\'s Virtua games.

At the moment Sony is indeed saying in interviews that the gaming PS3 gaming experience is well worth the money ; while a substantial part of consumer base is somewhat sceptic.

I\'d say there are some similarities to the situations.

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I see no proof that GAMING wise the PS3 is worth that money. Most people are goin\' on about Blu-Ray and how it\'s cheap for a Blu-Ray player - but what if the gamer doesn\'t want that? I don\'t care about Blu-Ray, I want a console and by them adding and charging out the ass all due to Blu-Ray and things I have no intention of ever using, the console becomes over-priced. If you are wanting a Blu-Ray player and you\'re a Sony fan, then yes, maybe the price is reasonable to you, but to the average gamer or the gamer who isn\'t embarcing Blu-Ray, the console is over priced and hasn\'t proved anything.

Oh and Tempest 2000 rocked your boxers off.

... No, I just buy almost anything on the market, or I use to at least.

how many gameboys (that are like 5% different) have you owned?
:rofl:

if it\'s not worth your money, you have no argument.

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how many gameboys (that are like 5% different) have you owned?
:rofl:

1 Gameboy.
1 Game boy color
2 Gameboy advances
1 Gameboy Advance SP
and soon 1 Gameboy DS lite

Point?

I also own a Sega Saturn (US) and Sega Saturn (JP)

I have also owned 3 Psone\'s, but only because the first two died.

I use to collect systems, but I now realize how pointless that is. They sit in the closet and never get played, so instead of blowing money on consoles I am not goin\' to play, I plan on buying systems based on games I do want to play.

if it\'s not worth your money, you have no argument.

Works both ways, if you think it is worth your money, you also have no argument.

uhhhhhh...if it\'s worth my money, there certainly is no argument

:rofl: at 4 gameboys

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uhhhhhh...if it\'s worth my money, there certainly is no argument

:rofl: at 4 gameboys

The point was the whole not worth / worth argument is all based on opinion. It\'s the same as with the PSP, some say it was worth the price tag, even tho\', most can agree it lacks a solid library of games.


You can laugh at the four gameboys, I stated I use to collect systems. And as far as that goes..

Gameboy - Original, bought at Pawn Shop.

Gameboy Color - Bought at Pawn Shop.

Gameboy Advance - Bought launch day.

Gameboy Advance 2 - Has the TV Adapter Mod , was Cacpom\'s, but he gave it to me.

Gameboy SP  - Better design overall, paid full price and don\'t regret it. The fiance uses it while I use the original Advance.

Gameboy Advance DS lite - Never bought the original DS, but will buy it now due to the outstanding library.

So, it\'s not like I paid full price for three of those Gameboys.

The Atari Jaguar was introduced by Atari as a 64bit console even before N64.

It did feature some 3D games on it but it wasn\'t any substantial improvement upon games like StarFox, or Sega\'s Virtua games.

At the moment Sony is indeed saying in interviews that the gaming PS3 gaming experience is well worth the money ; while a substantial part of consumer base is somewhat sceptic.

I\'d say there are some similarities to the situations.

 Yeah but in most cases Attari didnt even have a substantial improvement over mediocre Genesis or Snes games. Even at a cheap price it wasnt worth the money. It would have still flopped.

 On the PS3 I saw too many impressive looking and promising titles that felt truelly next gen.

 The PS3 doesnt offer less than a 360 (unlike Attari that almost anything it offered paled in comparisson to anything). Actually I see lots of great promising titltes. I dont need Sony to tell me that. And the list excites me more than 360\'s. Many of them were almost indistinguishable from CGI, and except from great graphics they had lots of physics and realism that I rarely see on a 360. Most of 360\'s exclusive top games will be released on PC\'s. I dont buy consoles to play PC games.  I see more value on the PS3.

 The substantial part of the consumer that is sceptic is a mix of people that: a)indeed wonder if its worth the money, b)of people that want it right now but cant get it and b) others that never planned to get one anyways and found the perfect chance to justify twice their initial their choice or to rant.
 

I ve been visiting various forums to see reactions of people from the gaming conference while I was watching it live.

 After the boring GT4 footage people were very excited with the demonstrations. Most of them if not all of them (apart from a few fanboys) were very satisfied and impressed with what they have seen. Before the price many of them said they were going to get one most likely.
 It wasnt until Sony announced the price that many of them lost their excitement.

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Many of them were almost indistinguishable from CGI

I won\'t kill you for your post, but that above quote proves one thing........You\'re blind... The PS3 looks good yes, but not that good.

I won\'t kill you for your post, but that above quote proves one thing........You\'re blind... The PS3 looks good yes, but not that good.

Heavenly Sword, FF13(the real time parts) and MGS4 dont?

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Heavenly Sword, FF13(the real time parts) and MGS4 dont?

No, they don\'t.

Do they look good? Yes. That good? No.

No, they don\'t.

Do they look good? Yes. That good? No.

Anyways it will be pointless to discuss whether they are near CGI quality or not. But even if thats the case they are good enough to pull my head more often. They were definetely more impressive.

So far apart from a few 360 games only Wi\'s and PS3\'s list pulled my interest.

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LIC, you keep saying ps3 shouldn\'t include blu ray, and you said that ps2 shouldn\'t include dvd drive, but did you realize how many games now uses the dvd format for ps2?  Even sony said that all ps3 games will "only" be in blu ray formats to keep away the hackers, at least for a while because blu ray discs are expensive and much harder to hack.