DVD\'s are fine for this generation

[Titan]

won\'t prove anything.  with 25+ gigs the developers won\'t be pressed to optimize their code and strive for the best compression possible.

the only thing that will prove whether DVD\'s are okay for this generation is how many 360 games end up on one DVD.  so far, each of them are on one dvd, and none of them have come close to the 8.5 gig limit.

They\'re all on DVD because that\'s all they can put their games on. They pretty much have to compress as much as they can.

Any link?

why do you need a link?  It just makes sense.  Why would a developer spend the effort to optimally compress when they don\'t need to?

as far as game sizes, go search beyond3d forums for their thread about this.  in it you\'ll find several game sizes.  I could be wrong, but I don\'t think any of them went over 6 gigs.  the most recent example they had, and arguably the best, was Oblivion which came in around 4.x gigs.  if you know anything about that game, then you\'d see how silly this whole arguement is  (think 200+ hour rpg, every NPC has a voice over, hours of music, etc).

I don\'t see why you are arguing this so much.  Fact is right now that all 360 games are on one DVD, and there have been some pretty sweet hi-res, next gen experiences thus far.

why do you need a link?  It just makes sense.  Why would a developer spend the effort to optimally compress when they don\'t need to?

as far as game sizes, go search beyond3d forums for their thread about this.  in it you\'ll find several game sizes.  I could be wrong, but I don\'t think any of them went over 6 gigs.  the most recent example they had, and arguably the best, was Oblivion which came in around 4.x gigs.  if you know anything about that game, then you\'d see how silly this whole arguement is  (think 200+ hour rpg, every NPC has a voice over, hours of music, etc).

I don\'t see why you are arguing this so much.  Fact is right now that all 360 games are on one DVD, and there have been some pretty sweet hi-res, next gen experiences thus far.

 I ment link containing how many GBs 360 games take

I ment link containing how many GBs 360 games take

and I answered.  go to beyond3d forums.  there, you can also read their take on this tripe discussion.

[Titan]

Maybe if it was on a bigger disk, Waspman wouldn\'t have had been disappointed with Oblivion

http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38585

Dayum all the way to page 7 on this topic?

Anyway games such as UT2007 are hitting the 6 gig mark IIRC.  If first gen games are up to that point I think it\'s wise to be open to the possibility of games needing more than 9gigs in the next 5 years.

I\'m willing to pay a premium to have a next-generation optical technology but I understand not many people will share the same sentiment, especially thrifty console gamers.

Maybe if it was on a bigger disk, Waspman wouldn\'t have had been disappointed with Oblivion

http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=38585

I don\'t follow how DVD capacity has anything to do with frame rate.  Oblivion didn\'t take up even half of a DVD9.

[Titan]

I don\'t follow how DVD capacity has anything to do with frame rate.  Oblivion didn\'t take up even half of a DVD9.

*sigh* Apparently someone can\'t take a fucking joke.

*sigh* Apparently someone can\'t take a fucking joke.

only the funny ones.

I don\'t follow how DVD capacity has anything to do with frame rate.  Oblivion didn\'t take up even half of a DVD9.

Flightsimulator 98 was on 1 CD and modeled the entire world

Don\'t use games with large land areas as examples for games they need alot of space

CGI will fill the disc. This has always been the case. Nothing has changed except that hi-def is a larger file size. Hence, larger disc space.

Nothing like a couple new consoles to bring out the warm fuzzy feeling around here, eh?

and I answered.  go to beyond3d forums.  there, you can also read their take on this tripe discussion.

There are lots of pages some saying a bigger format will be needed and others saying it wont. Which is what we are doing here too
 I only want to see a link containing information on the size 360 games take from the disc.

There are lots of pages some saying a bigger format will be needed and others saying it wont. Which is what we are doing here too
 I only want to see a link containing information on the size 360 games take from the disc.

I don\'t remember the title of the thread, but I know it\'s there.  If I feel up to it then I\'ll go searching and link it here for you.

Fucking hell, it had been so long since I posted in this thread...the file sizes of some of the 360 games are in the original post of this very thread (the article which I grabbed from beyond3d).

[Living-In-Clip]

CGI will fill the disc. This has always been the case. Nothing has changed except that hi-def is a larger file size. Hence, larger disc space.

Nothing like a couple new consoles to bring out the warm fuzzy feeling around here, eh?

Preach on brother.
Preach on.