Same Same-Sex Marriage Debate

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/05/same.sex.marriage/index.html

With the War in Iraq, rising gas prices and the ayatollah of Iran threatening the witholding of oil, why the hell is the Republican party focusing on this non-issue again?

You can\'t tell me mid-term elections have nothing to do with it. What better way to get the conservative base riled up than by starting a good old scare of homophobia?

The issue isn\'t even going to pass. Aren\'t Christians beginning to feel exploited yet?

[Titan]

I honestly don\'t care about gay marriage. My conservativeness tells me that it should be for a man and a woman. However, I do believe that they should be granted the same rights as married people to adopt. I\'m more for Civil Unions. However, my more socially liberal side tells me that gay people should make the decision to make their own lives miserable by getting married

My guess as a non-american?  You gotta keep in mind that the US is still almost 80% christian.  heh heh Nubmers.  Even the crazy-ass born agains are like 25%... and they\'ll vote on a single issue.  It just makes sense to make that issue one that the Dems cannot possibly get a vote on.

*holy fuck (BLASPHEMY!) Ican\'t make the slahs-url command work right.  I think I\'ll go to bed and edit tomorow.

[Evi]

You gotta keep in mind that the US is still almost 80% christian.

Don\'t know where they get those numbers from. And more than half of those are just flat out lying about their religious affiliation.

*holy fuck (BLASPHEMY!) Ican\'t make the slahs-url command work right. I think I\'ll go to bed and edit tomorow.

Come back when you\'re sober.

I like a drunk guy who uses the word blasphemy.
 
Hey listen, if FatalXception wants to get drunk and marry another dude, I say, let him.

=FatalXception]My guess as a non-american?  You gotta keep in mind that the US is still almost 80% christian.  heh heh Nubmers.  

Yeah, but you can\'t assume that all Christians are going to vote the same way.

Here\'s a more accurate stat: http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?ID=23295

According to the Gallup poll, 58 percent of Americans oppose same-sex marriages, BUT only about half of all Americans actually want to amend the Constitution to prohibit it.

This, again, pits Americans against each other. Why is the Bush Administration selecting issues that most greatly divide the country?

This is simply a bullshit ploy to draw more religious kooks and other (normally non-voting) right wingers to the polls. It has nothing to do with what the MAJORITY of the nation is interested in. See the following Gallup poll:
 
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDc2NGU0YmMzZTViZmRkMDJlYmI1NWYxMDdmNWY4YWQ=
 

From a new Gallup poll, taken May 22-24, with results from an identical poll
taken April 10-13 for comparison.  The question was: "What one or two issues
should be top priorities for the president and Congress to deal with at
this time?"
 
                                                      May       April
Situation in Iraq/war                                  42         29
Fuel/oil prices/lack of energy sources/
the energy crisis                                      29         13
Immigration/illegal aliens                             23         20
Economy in general                                     14         14
Poor health care/hospitals; high cost    
of health care                                         12          9
Terrorism                                               4          3
Education/poor education/access    
to education                                            4          4
Federal budget deficit/federal debt                     3          3
Unemployment/jobs                                       3          3
Taxes                                                   3          2
Social Security                                         2          2
International issues/problems                           2          2
National security                                       2          5
Environment/pollution                                   2          1
Medicare                                                2          2
Foreign aid/focus overseas                              2          2
Poor leadership/corruption/dissatisfaction
with government/Congress/politicians/
candidates                                              2          1
Poverty/hunger/homelessness                             1          1
Ethics/moral/religious/family decline;
dishonesty; lack of integrity                           1          1
Natural disaster relief/funding                         1          *
Trade deficit/foreign trade                             1          *
High cost of living/inflation                           1          1
Unifying the country                                    *          1
Judicial system/courts/laws                             *          1
Abortion                                                *          1
Lack of money                                           *          1
Gap between rich and poor                               *          1
Other                                                   1          2
No opinion                                              4          3
Percentages add to more than 100% due to multiple responses.

"Ethics/moral/religious/family decline; dishonesty; lack of integrity" gets 1%

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[Titan]

Core, that poll you posted I pretty much agree with. This is not a priority of our country. The war and other shit needs to be dealed with first. Leave the gay marriage to the states. They don\'t seem to have anything better to do than restrict smokers by putting a cigarette tax that is completely retarded, raising the driving age to 19 and lowering the god damn speeding limit to 55 because Corzine thinks people will actually fucking listen. Ofcoarse I\'m talking about New Jersey. God I hate Corzine.

[clips]

Core, that poll you posted I pretty much agree with. This is not a priority of our country. The war and other shit needs to be dealed with first. Leave the gay marriage to the states. They don\'t seem to have anything better to do than restrict smokers by putting a cigarette tax that is completely retarded, raising the driving age to 19 and lowering the god damn speeding limit to 55 because Corzine thinks people will actually fucking listen. Ofcoarse I\'m talking about New Jersey. God I hate Corzine.

i posted a thread about what that a**hole is doin up there....he lowerd the speed limit back down to 55?...that\'s just to catch more speeders and to generate more revenue,..cause i know NOBODY does 55 on any highway....as far as the same sex topic goes?..i was always convinced that the people in congress are complete idiots...the fact that they are pushing this issue over more important issues further strengthens my point...what\'s the use of voting when these f**kin retards are gonna do whatever they want anyway?...it\'s pure bulls**t...and marriage should be between a man and a woman period. i\'ll go as far as recognizing civil unions and that\'s it...

[Titan]

i posted a thread about what that a**hole is doin up there....he lowerd the speed limit back down to 55?...that\'s just to catch more speeders and to generate more revenue,..cause i know NOBODY does 55 on any highway....as far as the same sex topic goes?

No, that prick is trying. If he does lower it, I\'m gonna go to the Thumwacket (or whatever gayass name our governor\'s mansion is) and smack him with a road sign. I was on the Parkway a week ago and people were flying down that on average 80. The 55 probably is to line his own pockets with.

as far as the same sex topic goes?..i was always convinced that the people in congress are complete idiots...the fact that they are pushing this issue over more important issues further strengthens my point...what\'s the use of voting when these f**kin retards are gonna do whatever they want anyway?...it\'s pure bulls**t...and marriage should be between a man and a woman period. i\'ll go as far as recognizing civil unions and that\'s it...

Wait, I\'m confused. People in Congress are idiots because they are saying same-sex couples shouldn\'t marry, yet you think marriage should only be between a man and a woman?

Which one is it?

[Viper_Fujax]

im also i on the butt budd..i mean "civil union" opinion\'s side.

Im also not all angry at congress about how theyre focusing on gay marriage instead of the war and gas prices. 1) what can they do about the war that they havent already tried..and what is something they can do NOW..might as well do stuff like baseball steroids and gay marriage 2) theyre rich..they dont care about gas prices.

and the iran thing is being addressed..didnt iran respond er something that is helping the situation?

[clips]

Wait, I\'m confused. People in Congress are idiots because they are saying same-sex couples shouldn\'t marry, yet you think marriage should only be between a man and a woman?

Which one is it?

they\'re idiots because there are more important issues to worry about. and my whole opinion on the gay marriage thing is that i will only recognize civil unions at the very least...but it seems that this issue has been decided already...read..


http://www.yahoo.com/s/135781/*http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060608/ap_on_go_co/gay_marriage