Jay-Z boycotts Cristal...

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"That\'s a good question, but what can we do? We can\'t forbid people from buying it. I\'m sure Dom Perignon or Krug would be delighted to have their business."

^^^that is what i have a problem with....he\'s sayin it like "well it could be detrimental to our business, but what can do?..we can\'t stop these "rappers" from buying it...sheeit let them buy their champagne from krug or dom perignon..,<---that is actually what he\'s sayin....plenty of people buy his champagne whether it\'s the hill billy down the street or the average hoodrat or the guy workin on wall street...point is it shouldn\'t matter and he shouldn\'t worry about who\'s purchasing his products...

[Titan]

Like I said, if they\'re getting a steady stream, I wouldn\'t care who was buying it as long as it was in my pocket. But they did mention Kanye West drank it. I wouldn\'t want him endorsing anything of mine

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Like I said, if they\'re getting a steady stream, I wouldn\'t care who was buying it as long as it was in my pocket. But they did mention Kanye West drank it. I wouldn\'t want him endorsing anything of mine

as far as kanye is concerned....now i agree with you there,..sayin\' stuff like "bush don\'t care about black people" then havin him hold a bottle in his hand with a big-ass smile on a billboard or in a mag, i think the stocks would fall off just a bit......kanye\'s music is alright, but when he made that comment, even i was like "what were you thinking?".....

[Evi]

kanye\'s music is alright, but when he made that comment, even i was like "what were you thinking?".....

The look that was on Mike Myers\' face said it all.

[SirMystiq]

I have to agree with Cored.

Cristal IS A HIGH LEVEL CHAMPAGNE. It is supposed to be distinguished by class and sophistication. It is champagne! It is not meant to be chugged at the club or poured on a naked girl.

The CEO is right. It is horribly publicity for it\'s champagne. I\'ve heard of it...even without Jay-Z. It does bring down the champagne level a whole lot.

It\'s like the Escalade. THEY ARE EVERYWHERE NOW. Not because the people can afford it, but because their living in shit houses but driving an expensive vehicle. I see it all the time in Dallas.

Rappers are all full of shit and themselves. It\'s not a "culture"...if anybody considers random sex, diamonds and the adoration of expensive cars a "culture"...then they have serious problems.

[SirMystiq]

jay-z still playing the race card?

he built his empire on black exploitation

Word

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oh i wish we could stop all the mexicans from drinking our product, but what can we do? we can\'t stop them from buying it....i\'m sure "quevo"(tequila) would love to have their business....see how that sounds mystiq? if anybody made that comment whether they were black or white you would say f**k you! and not order any more of that companie\'s product...whether me and my menz are sittin around kickin\' it or whether you\'re at some black tie event...it doesn\'t matter who purchases it and he shouldn\'t worry about what types of people purchases it...i can\'t believe just repeated what i stated earlier,....my brain is fried now. i\'ve been up all night(work) and i just don\'t have the energy to entertain this anymore.... at least not right now.....

[CHIZZY]

To be honest, I don\'t see the big deal of what he said either. I mean, they probably (definatly) have a marketing strategy and thus the \'surpricing\' love from  rappers who talk about killing, tits and ass and all that, is probably not what they want to be associated with. It\'s a business tactic and doesn\'t really have anything to do with being racist.

just what I would say. Some people in that "lifestyle" glorify sex & violence and demean women. If some sleazy druggy rock band sang about cristal I\'m sure it would be the same thing...


But sleazy druggy rock bands sing about Jack Daniels, and I\'m sure they\'re fine with that.

I think Jay Z is right and has a very valid point. Hip Hop is what brought Cristal to the mainstage.... and you don\'t bite a hand that feeds you.

It will be interesting to see if a boycott has an effect. I hope it does, i would love to see a corporation backpedaling and trying to appologize and make ammends.


I never tried Cristal, I do enjoy Dom though... IMO when it comes to Champagne... the drier the better

The only reason rappers care about Cristal is because it\'s the most expensive.  If something else comes along that costs more, that is what they will elevate in their songs about how rich they are and how many chicks they have and now much respect they get.  It\'s completely stupid.

That\'s completely beside the point.

(The article doesn\'t mention the whole interview, so we have to go by what is quoted.)

This part is essential though:

"...but what can we do? We can\'t forbid people from buying it...."

So, imo the CEO makes it pretty clear that he\'s less than happy that his brand is possibly publicy associated with these hip hop artists as clients.

That\'s a clear distinguishment. Now...this statement of his is not racist as far as i can see it. He does clearly not like his brand to be associated with this hip hop scene ; so, this concerns both black AND white hip hop artists.

It\'s not a smart move by Jay Z to (over ? ) react to this in public print. He could just quit buying this brand. Nonetheless, the CEO does seem bit like an a-hole ; the kind of guy who thinks he\'s better than the people he just doesn\'t like because so and so. The "Mr-know-it-all" type.

He didn\'t say we can\'t keep black people from buying, so what if he fking took a stab at the hip-hop culture if he doesn\'t like that life style he has a right to speak his mind. I can\'t stand the way hip-hop culture people act whether white or black I can\'t stand them equally. I\'m sure Paul Wall was in the "but what can we do? We can\'t forbid people from buying it" category too, hell and he\'s white.

Either way, this CEO \'s a kind of person on earth, consciously out there to make enemies, not friends.

Yeah, he\'s free to act like that and he might think that\'s a good social way of doing things.

Sooner or later it\'s gonna bite such people like him back, in one way or another.

But yes, both the CEO and Jay Z didn\'t portray tactical media genius. lol.

[SirMystiq]

oh i wish we could stop all the mexicans from drinking our product, but what can we do? we can\'t stop them from buying it....i\'m sure "quevo"(tequila) would love to have their business....see how that sounds mystiq? if anybody made that comment whether they were black or white you would say f**k you! and not order any more of that companie\'s product...whether me and my menz are sittin around kickin\' it or whether you\'re at some black tie event...it doesn\'t matter who purchases it and he shouldn\'t worry about what types of people purchases it...i can\'t believe just repeated what i stated earlier,....my brain is fried now. i\'ve been up all night(work) and i just don\'t have the energy to entertain this anymore.... at least not right now.....

Cuervo you mean?

And...it\'s tequila...Mexican tequila...and it\'s not as expensive as Cristal.

Actually, if I made a product that is supposed to be about class and status. That is supposed to be only opened at expensive parties and sipped not chugged...I would say the exact same thing about people demaning and not appreciating the value of it.

I think the CEO CARES about the standards of his product. It\'s the investors that don\'t give a damn.

It\'s not quality champagne if anybody buys it. It\'s lose it\'s reputation once it becomes a fad. Like...the Hummer.

And I agree with everybody that posted before this post.

...Finally in my opinion, there is no such thing as "hip-hop culture", at least not the type projected by rappers right now.

[Titan]

I think this is the first time I\'m gonna say these two things. Mystiq has a valid point and I have to agree with him

I second that, maybe him going to the whitey school is helping him realize things