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Jay-Z boycotts Cristal...
« on: June 15, 2006, 08:41:28 PM »
i think polo and timberland made similar comments back in tha day...i was waitin\' for tommy hilfiger to say somethin\' when cats used to be big on him...anyway, i would\'ve done the same thing, i never really knew of cristal until jigga started promotin it...whateva,..it was probably some white ceo who thinks they\'re s**t don\'t stink... racist bastards...f**k \'em...



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« Reply #1 on: June 15, 2006, 08:45:26 PM »
Both Cristal and Jay-Z are fucking morons.

Its champagne... big whoop.
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« Reply #2 on: June 15, 2006, 09:18:58 PM »
Culture clash.  Any person in a leadership position of a company has no business saying that though.  It all comes down to money, and those comments definitely won\'t help them gain sales, because the KKK ain\'t got no money

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« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2006, 09:31:08 PM »
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Culture clash.  Any person in a leadership position of a company has no business saying that though.  It all comes down to money, and those comments definitely won\'t help them gain sales, because the KKK ain\'t got no money


exactly..i\'m sure when he was ordering supplies from them, they gladly took his money. regardless of how they felt about how it was bein promoted, they just should have kept they\'re thoughts to themselves and shut the f**k up....
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« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2006, 10:06:57 PM »
The only reason rappers care about Cristal is because it\'s the most expensive.  If something else comes along that costs more, that is what they will elevate in their songs about how rich they are and how many chicks they have and now much respect they get.  It\'s completely stupid.
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« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2006, 10:40:34 PM »
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The only reason rappers care about Cristal is because it\'s the most expensive.  If something else comes along that costs more, that is what they will elevate in their songs about how rich they are and how many chicks they have and now much respect they get.  It\'s completely stupid.


i agree with you to a certain extent core, but all people no-matter what ethnic group you\'re from care about the latest and greatest, whether it\'s champagne or a corvette, even tho people can get another brand with similar value, some people will simply go with the most expensive brand because they think it is better....as far as the women and respect thing goes, that has always been a benchmark in the rap culture,...i can also state how some  deep heavy metal bands produce music like they\'re worshipping the devil and prop horns on they\'re heads like they\'re his spawn...it\'s retarded as well, but it\'s music....

anyway that wasn\'t the point in how rappers project themselves....the point was that regardless of whether you\'re the owner of a huge champagne business or a small business owner, people from all walks of life support your business, and even tho jay-z\'s boycotting of cristal most definitely won\'t put them out of business, it sends a strong message that he doesn\'t need them or their products...that comment should have never have been made,...at least not publicly...
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« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2006, 12:35:44 AM »
I don\'t see whats so bad that the Roederer guy said.  Clips, maybe you should get off Jay-Z\'s dick.  And to call him racist? Surprise surprise

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« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2006, 01:12:20 AM »
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I don\'t see whats so bad that the Roederer guy said.  Clips, maybe you should get off Jay-Z\'s dick.  And to call him racist? Surprise surprise


you couldn\'t see what he was tryin to say?...aren\'t you in college? no wonder the the u.s. is slippin in the academics dept...maybe you couldn\'t comprehend it, but he basically was sayin that his champagne was too good for rap culture....how am i kissin\' jay-z\'s ass? It doesn\'t matter what color he is whether the said company owner is black or white,..it\'s just that whenever these types of comments are made it\'s usually by these types of snobbish people...who happen to be white....again some of you white folk fail to read between the lines or don\'t have a clue..no wait let me guess, you still think racism doesn\'t exist right?....
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« Reply #8 on: June 16, 2006, 03:01:06 AM »
To be honest, I don\'t see the big deal of what he said either. I mean, they probably (definatly) have a marketing strategy and thus the \'surpricing\' love from  rappers who talk about killing, tits and ass and all that, is probably not what they want to be associated with. It\'s a business tactic and doesn\'t really have anything to do with being racist.
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« Reply #9 on: June 16, 2006, 04:05:05 AM »
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To be honest, I don\'t see the big deal of what he said either. I mean, they probably (definatly) have a marketing strategy and thus the \'surpricing\' love from  rappers who talk about killing, tits and ass and all that, is probably not what they want to be associated with. It\'s a business tactic and doesn\'t really have anything to do with being racist.


then why make the comment 10 yrs after he\'s been glamorizin\' it? If it was such an isuue, as soon as jay-z would\'ve started promotin it they should have said something...they didn\'t....i\'m sure you see plenty of benz\'s and jag\'s in those rap videos, yet you don\'t hear any of those manufactuer\'s sayin.."uh our vehicles weren\'t made to be exploited in such a manner"....c\'mon man..it\'s pure bulls**t....from a business standpoint?...it\'s champgne?!...oh because the rap industry glamorizes it a bit it\'s going to discourage sales?...10 years later?....if anything it boosted sales. because it\'s associated with rap people are gonna say.."uh no we don\'t wanna order cristal, it\'s associated with thugs and murderers"...:ohnoes:....:rolleyes:..anyway you try to spin it, this guy was bein an asshole in thinkin that his champagne is above and beyond people who are involved in some manner with rap culture....
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« Reply #10 on: June 16, 2006, 07:22:15 AM »
The point is, you\'re making all these statements that Frederic Rouzaud was "... thinkin that his champagne is above and beyond people who are involved in some manner with rap culture"
 
He didn\'t say anything like that.  You\'re putting words in his mouth, or maybe ideas in his head.  Perhaps he does believe that, but we have to go by what he said:
 
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In The Economist magazine, Rouzaud said the company viewed the affection for his company\'s champagne from rappers and their fans with "curiosity and serenity."

 
Asked by the magazine if the association between Cristal and the "bling lifestyle" could be detrimental, Rouzaud replied:  "That\'s a good question, but what can we do? We can\'t forbid people from buying it. I\'m sure Dom Perignon or Krug would be delighted to have their business."
He didn\'t even say his new customers would be detrimental.  He said "That\'s a good question."  he was speaking hypothetically.
 
"Curiosity and serenity"  OMG!  A Racist!  :ohnoes:

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« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2006, 02:16:06 PM »
jay-z still playing the race card?

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« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2006, 03:36:29 PM »
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you couldn\'t see what he was tryin to say?...aren\'t you in college? no wonder the the u.s. is slippin in the academics dept...maybe you couldn\'t comprehend it, but he basically was sayin that his champagne was too good for rap culture....how am i kissin\' jay-z\'s ass? It doesn\'t matter what color he is whether the said company owner is black or white,..it\'s just that whenever these types of comments are made it\'s usually by these types of snobbish people...who happen to be white....again some of you white folk fail to read between the lines or don\'t have a clue..no wait let me guess, you still think racism doesn\'t exist right?....


Clips, don\'t ever compare your intelligence to mine.  You are a fucking joke.

Look at what people like Cored said.  Curiosity and serenity *gasp*  He was being interviewed, was posed this question and answered it.  He didn\'t come out ten years later complaining about it.

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« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2006, 08:27:01 PM »
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Clips, don\'t ever compare your intelligence to mine.  You are a fucking joke.

Look at what people like Cored said.  Curiosity and serenity *gasp*  He was being interviewed, was posed this question and answered it.  He didn\'t come out ten years later complaining about it.


y\'know i respect everybody in here,..so believe me when i tell you that i will respectfully put my foot up your ass....i read what cored stated, but again if you can\'t read between the lines and see that he was tryin to be an asshole on the low, then my previous statement stands,..you are slow on the intake...he didn\'t come right out and stated it blantantly, he was slick about it...believe me i\'m not lookin\' too deep into this one..i\'m just readin\' between the lines...
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« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2006, 09:31:50 PM »
Why would a company say their product is too good for someone when the company is getting  a huge revenue from said group of people? I read the article. It seems to have just been taken out of context. Money is money. I don\'t think the owners of the company are complaining as long as there is a steady flow of it.
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