More Wii launch games

the step from GC -> wii is nowhere near what sony and microsoft have done
 
then again, that\'s why you\'re paying a budget price

Nice reasoning.

If Nintendo released a new controller and bundled it with a first party game for Gamecube, it could maybe sell 750,000 copies and that\'d be the end.
 
Instead, they\'ve created another cashcow and a viable next generation system.
 
We\'re smarter than the average consumer, no need to start playing dumb now.

how is it "next generation"?
it\'s barely a graphical upgrade, especially when it\'s not even hi-def.
i\'m glad they didn\'t include a hard drive (wait, where are these "vitual console" games being stored), but not supporting 720P at the least is a ball shot which will crippled them.

i\'ll agree that graphics do not make the game, but black bars make me want to vomit.

nintendo WILL nickle and dime you on the "virtual console".  bet on that, LIC.

[Jumpman]

if wii is gc 2.0 then ps3 is ps2.5

it can be \'PS 2.1 blu-ray is the devil we want your soul edition\' for all i care

and how exactly is that a counter point to this discussion?
but that must have taken alot of effort

[Living-In-Clip]

The fact that the PS3 is $600 bucks , all because they decided to use it as a push for a movie format. You\'re paying an outrageous price, for a graphical jump and a Blu-Ray player. If you want to do that, then fine, but don\'t try and act like Sony isn\'t doing the exact same thing. Where as Nintendo is using the Wii just for gaming, Sony is hardly paying any attention to the gaming aspect and focusing on pushing their next generation movie format.

By the time I pay for a Wii, I can still pick up an HD-DVD player if I so choose or I can go ahead and get an Xbox 360. Two for the price of one.


As for the black bars comment - must not watch a lot of widescreen movies. Honestly, I don\'t see the big deal in the "black bars". At that point, you\'re just nit-picking and doing nothing more.



And the nickle and diming comment. They can go ahead and nickle and dime me, it\'s still a lot cheaper than tracking down a lot of those games on Ebay or other venues.


(And speaking of Blu-Ray, anyone else watching that format war? Blu-Ray has been NOTHING but a dissapointment. Movie studios are now starting to back HD-DVD more and more. Not crying doom on the Blu-Ray format, but it is nowhere living up to the hype it generated.)

Nobody\'s got a crystal ball ( right ? )

but i think, at the very least... Wii will have great initial sales.

(PAL) PS3\'s launch price is actually 22 Euros cheaper than (PAL) PS2\'s launchprice, if we were to take the non HDMI / 20Gb HD version.

The HDMI version is indeed 78 euros more expensive than the PS2 was
at PAL launch, which was € 522.

how is it "next generation"?
it\'s barely a graphical upgrade, especially when it\'s not even hi-def.
i\'m glad they didn\'t include a hard drive (wait, where are these "vitual console" games being stored), but not supporting 720P at the least is a ball shot which will crippled them.

If you define a next-generation system as a system with high definition output, then Wii is not a next gen system. Also, it has 512MB of memory so they will be saved there until or if that gets full, and then there are SD card slots to use as memory cards.
 
Let\'s be honest, though. The only definition we have for next-generation system is "the system that comes out after the one we\'re using". And that\'s what Wii is. If you prefer Nintendo PR, you can call it the "new generation."
 

i\'ll agree that graphics do not make the game, but black bars make me want to vomit.

Consult a physician. ;]
 
-Dan

LIC, when will you learn that price doesn\'t matter
how many 50$k+ cars do you see on the road?
it\'s moot and not even a consideration.

blu-ray will explode like the DVD format did when PS2 was launched.

i don\'t watch any pan and scan films on my widescreen TV if i can help it.
you must not own one yet, pity.

my (the) definition of "next generation" is substantial advancement in graphics and/or gameplay.
the wii controller has been done before.   moving a controller in the air in front of you is hardly something new.
so that leaves graphics....oh yeah.

Nobody\'s got a crystal ball ( right ? )

my crystal ball is deductive reasoning.

I question some of your deductive reasoning this time around.
 
LIC, when will you learn that price doesn\'t matter
how many 50$k+ cars do you see on the road?
it\'s moot and not even a consideration.
 
Huh? The real question is, how many people have $50,000 cars hooked up in their living rooms as a video game console. And if you\'re thinking that doesn\'t make sense, now you know what I thought when I read your explanation. Fact is, history has proven that U.S. gamers don\'t go that deep into the wallet when purchasing a console. PS3 is poised to sell well... but for how long after launch? No amount of deductive reasoning can provide the answer to that one. Too many variables.

blu-ray will explode like the DVD format did when PS2 was launched.
 
Like how UMD exploded at the dawn of PSP? What else will happen in the future?

i don\'t watch any pan and scan films on my widescreen TV if i can help it. you must not own one yet, pity.
 
Oh, I think the confusion here was that LIC knew Wii games have been reported as being widescreen (we\'ll see) and he thought you meant bars going the other way.

my (the) definition of "next generation" is substantial advancement in graphics and/or gameplay.
 
Substantial meaning....?

the wii controller has been done before. moving a controller in the air in front of you is hardly something new.
 
It\'s true, I play most of my PS2, GCN, Xbox, SNES, NES, Dreamcast, Genesis and Xbox 360 games by moving my controller in the air. It\'s so normal that I forget it\'s supposed to be a new feature.  That or you\'re just being an asshat at this point. One of the two.

so that leaves graphics....oh yeah.
 
True. They\'re improved, sure. But not to mm\'s definition of substantial, so why bother?
 
-Dan
 
/goes back to playing Frogger

...for like 15 minutes untill the novelty wears off.

UMD = proprietary format.   i\'m shocked you would stoop so low, eik.
why not throw "rootkit" in there somewhere.

there\'s variables, and there\'s logical progression linking them.

and cost?  
how many people pay cash for consoles vs how many throw them on the ol\' credit card?

480P is not true widescreen, unless they can stretch it some goofy resolution.
ex:

yeah, that\'s good times

^^ I\'m familiar with that. I typically just mush it to fit the screen rather than look at the vertical bars. After a minute I don\'t notice the squashiness anymore heh.

[Living-In-Clip]

I own a widescreen TV, owned one for three years - so don\'t try that. It doesn\'t bother most of us. Plus , chances are , most developers will add a WS option to the game.

-shrugs-

As for the UMD comment, this is the same nonsense you spouted when UMD was around. Oh, it\'s gonna take off, blah, blah. HD-DVD has support, been out longer and people are already adopting it.

Heh, well, you know mm. Eternal optimist. ;]

[Jumpman]

and how exactly is that a counter point to this discussion?
but that must have taken alot of effort

it didn\'t, and it wasn\'t a counter point

you would of had to have made a point first for that to happen