Nintendo Wii Price and Release Date: $250 on Nov. 19th

[Paul2]

Eik: Online-wise? I agree.

Sales-wise? I\'d say that it\'s possible but improbable, given the year headstart.

Then again, the Genesis had a 2-year headstart and the SNES eventually outsold it overall.

I think the Genesis and SNES have about 50/50 market share in the world, or around there...

it would be better to compare the Dreamcast which have over a year headstart than PlayStation 2, but the ps2 outsold it...but Dreamcast died a rather quick death, which I doubt would be the case of 360 as I think it will sells better than Dreamcast.

It\'s 280 CDN here in Canada, and I think I\'ll hold off on it, probably just until it is around 200.  Older games are 500 points for NES, 800 points for SNES, and 1000 points for N64.  Points are 20 USD for 2000 or 24 CDN.

The remote is a bit pricey, but that\'s ok, peripherals always are, I\'ll still be trying one out near launch, if it\'s really a super-fun system, I\'ll pick one up right away (November will be an expensive month, I guess).

using points is stupid and i hope every consumer sees right thru the points vs real cash ploy....wait, they wont....

It\'s stupid but effective. At first you divide it up in your head (Xbox Live) but after a game or two, you forget the conversion and just buy something else with the change. I do, anyway.
 
On Wii it\'s more straight forward. 500 = $5.00. Less trickery involved there.
 
I suppose it\'s not much different than cell phone minutes. Minutes, points, whatever, it\'s all money.

I don\'t mind the point system as much.  I like the flat values.  If you have to buy a chunk of points anyways, knowing how that can break down into purchases is a good thing.  It\'s almost like an allowance where you give yourself 2000 points, or 20 bucks, and you can pick out 4 games of one type, 2 of another, or a combination of 3, etc.  I really don\'t see the ploy, you will spend money regardless, seeing Points following the value or Dollars really makes no difference to me.

It does for me when I spend the last few bucks on Uno because it\'s cheap and then need to throw down another twenty when the next game comes along.
 
But I\'m not complaining, the Arcade is my favorite part of gaming right now.

i wish you wouldn\'t encourage xbox live arcade

Seriously, it might just be me, but before I started screwing with the arcade, my 360 was a hot-running DVD player.  It renewed my interest in the system and in the mean time, I played through Prey and soon, Saints Row.
 
My Gamecube, on the other hand, I can\'t remember the last time I turned that on.

The Nintendo Gamecube - the only console to be called next-gen - two generations in a row.  

i havent touched my GC since pikmin 2.

RE4 wasn\'t even enough to dust it off.
waiting on the PC version

I never tried Pikmin 2. I did try RE4. I totally sucked at it. I couldn\'t get passed the part where you get a shotgun early on. I tried twice then gave up. I hear it\'s one of the greatest games of all time, and I doubt I\'ll ever know.

Wow, the beginning of the game?

Thats REALLY bad...

:P

Here\'s a tip: Don\'t go into that house until the bell rings. Then pick up the shotgun...

Hah I know. Thanks for the tip. If I ever pick it up again I\'ll give it a shot. Maybe I\'ll have time between Saints Row and Wii.

Our GameCube got regular playtime. Near-daily. Then I sold it on Sunday to help pay for the Wii.

Yeah, my brother and I enjoyed frequent, heated battles (and co-op) in Mario Tennis, Golf, and Baseball. Weekends brought 3-player HDTV mayhem at a friend\'s: Mario Kart, Bomberman Generation, and SSBM made regular appearances.

Single-player wise? I haven\'t bought a SP-centric game for it since RE4 or so. I hear Chibi Robo is very good, but with a few exceptions (Baten Kaitos 2, Zelda, a few others) and ports... the GCN is pretty much finished as a system for solo players.

RE4 was astounding, BTW. You should invest some time into it and learn how to play, Eik.

[Bobs_Hardware]

Then again, the Genesis had a 2-year headstart and the SNES eventually outsold it overall.

Yeah. Nearly two years after Sega stopped supporting the Genesis in favour of the Saturn. hah

And RE4 was a big disappointment. Don\'t bother Eik. Just another shoot\'em\'up.

Pikmin is great.