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« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2006, 03:03:50 PM »
Soon as I finish my dinner I\'m going to go take up a crusade against action movies. Clowd shouldn\'t be allowed to enjoy those, and I\'ll see to it that it never happens again.
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« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2006, 03:36:38 PM »
btw that Mike Wilpon Pardon whatever e is called sounds like a pretty non-violent dude too :p

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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2006, 07:46:59 PM »
The best part is watching him talk about filing battery charges on Janet Reno.

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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2006, 09:50:11 PM »
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\'Somebody shoot him\'

Seems like something a mind whose simulated killing thousands of people would say

Grand Theft Auto\'s popularity is the worst thing to ever happen to videogames.  Take a look at yourself.  Anyone who plays such games enjoys the game entertainment Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris do.

I\'m not going to lie.  When I played Grand Theft Auto I liked it.  But,  I had the maturity and selfcontrol to return it to the video store after 3 days and never touch it again for years now because I realized there was something very sick about taking pleasure in killing people,  even if is just the simulation of death and not the real thing.  

"The people who made Grand Theft Auto should be dragged out onto the streets and shot."

- Mike Wilbon Pardon The Interruption

Any level headed adult can see there is something wrong with killing virtual people in horrendous ways for pleasure


Wow.....shut the fuck up. Its a game and that\'s why I play it. I know its fake and its a great escape from reality. If you think its sick to kill something that\'s not real, you need to seriously get your head examined.
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« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2006, 01:14:38 AM »
^^^
another post from yours that I agree with.

Again, videogames are for entertainment, and like any other kind of entertainments, is a good way to past time and escape from reality.

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« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2006, 11:47:12 AM »
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\'Somebody shoot him\'

Seems like something a mind whose simulated killing thousands of people would say

Grand Theft Auto\'s popularity is the worst thing to ever happen to videogames.  Take a look at yourself.  Anyone who plays such games enjoys the game entertainment Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris do.

I\'m not going to lie.  When I played Grand Theft Auto I liked it.  But,  I had the maturity and selfcontrol to return it to the video store after 3 days and never touch it again for years now because I realized there was something very sick about taking pleasure in killing people,  even if is just the simulation of death and not the real thing.  

"The people who made Grand Theft Auto should be dragged out onto the streets and shot."

- Mike Wilbon Pardon The Interruption

Any level headed adult can see there is something wrong with killing virtual people in horrendous ways for pleasure



And yet you constantly rave about games like FF, GT, and MGS...

Don\'t you go around killing in FF? Sure, they\'re fantasy characters but what are videogames, if not fantasy?

What speed do you race at in GT? Hope its within the speed limit because the higher the speed, the more likely an accident...  OOOPS!!!

MGS?

I must\'ve missed the G version because I remember plenty of guns and violence in some version...
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« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2006, 05:51:24 PM »
"I know its fake"

"I never thought about doing this in reality"

Alot of people who play very violent games say this.  Yet when they dont like someone the first things out of their mouth:

"Will someone please shoot him?"

"I\'m amazed some nerd hasn\'t tried to ice him yet."

Why are you amazed a nerd hasnt shot this man?  Why would a nerd pick up a weapon and kill a man he doesnt like?  Why would that even cross your mind?  


I know I\'m not the greatest example.  I know I\'m not the best person to be talking about this.  I\'m not a do good gamer.  Ashford was right,  I like games that have violence.  Final Fantasy,  and Metal Gear Solid.  I even have a avatar of Final Fantasy game where some girl is killing guys.

BUT,  I have my limits.  I can pass games (and movies) with minimal violence and games (and movies) that the violence is for the greater good,  not just for pleasure on money or drugs or thrills.

  Final Fantasy is violent because at times you do kill people,  but there is no blood.  Faceless guards fall down and dissappear.  In Final Fantasy VII they jus turned red and dissapeared.

  I do play the Metal Gear Solid series but its usually just a rental,  and while there is higher degree of violence in this game then others the game\'s storyline and graphics are what draw not me,  not the idea that you get to kill people which I hardly ever do in the game.

I remember way back in the Mortal Combat days.  My friends liked ripping the spinal cord out of enemies after they defeated them.  I never got it.  Why would you want to do that to anyone,  even a virtual character?  Over the top if you asked me.

Now there is Grand Theft Auto.  Note my post in this thread and others about videogame violence is directed at games like Grand Theft Auto and Dead Rising.

Grand Theft Auto puts people on the sidewalks,  lots of them,  their only purpose for you to rob them,  sleep with them,  or kill them.  

After killing innocent people the game encourages you to stomp them,  stab them,  or run them with a car.  Body parts can be cut of and spew blood.  The police is treated as the #1 enemy.

What seperates the violence in Grand Theft Auto from most other games is that you kill innocent people for pleasure.  And the game encourages it.

I was watching Cinematech and Dead Rising came up.  I had to turn the channel after seeing the main character rip the intestines out of a zombie.  Some people find pleasure in this.  If I played it enough I probably would to,  but there has to be a point where you look at yourself and say"what am I doing?"  I mean,  what if one of your family members was mugged and beat up,  the same thing you did on GTA for fun?  How would you feel that you immitated violent acts virtually?  Especially a violent act that affected someone you knew?  What if the next GTA came out where you could rape women?  Would it be wrong to do it,  even if it was just virtual?  And what would you think about people who took pleasure in doing that?  What should be thought about people who take pleasure in ripping out intestines, raping women,  blowing off heads,  sawing off limbs of innocent people and other violent crimes even if it is just a virtual world?

As for violent videogames changing ones behavior and thoughts,  true most adults can simply put actions in a virtual world in the back of their mind,  but there is always cases where people will take it a step further.

Delan Klebold and Aaron Harris.  They made a Doom map of their local highschool.

Some replies in those topic joked about several violent ways this man should be killed,  just because he thinks the FILTH Rockstar makes should be destroyed.

Once again,  I watch violent movies like LOTR,  Stealth etc.  I play violent video games like Final Fantasy and MGS.  But I DO NOT watch violent games or movies like SAW or GTA.  

If somebody wants to shut down GTA,  more power to them

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. If you think its sick to kill something that\'s not real, you need to seriously get your head examined.


Talk to any old timer,  they all watch gunsmoke.  Lots of people died in Gunsmoke.  You know what happened when they died?  They just fell into the water trough.  Now days,  when  something dies there is brains,  intestines,  and other things getting ripped out or falling out and blood spewing everywhere .  That is SICK,  even if it is in a virtual world.  I\'m sorry you are so desensitized to violence you can no longer see any problem with it.

Plenty of people hold my position.  It\'s time to start wondering whos brain should be examined.

Those who believe slaughtering people in very gory, gruesome ways is perfectly normal and great past time,  or those think the idea of that is sick.

What a tough question.  

And I wonder if that is a trait of a serial killer?..
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« Reply #22 on: December 21, 2006, 06:27:05 PM »
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"I know its fake"

"I never thought about doing this in reality"

Alot of people who play very violent games say this.  Yet when they dont like someone the first things out of their mouth:

"Will someone please shoot him?"

"I\'m amazed some nerd hasn\'t tried to ice him yet."

Why are you amazed a nerd hasnt shot this man?  Why would a nerd pick up a weapon and kill a man he doesnt like?  Why would that even cross your mind?


Ok. I have some free time right now to argue with you. Video games did not influence me to say that so stop making it seem like video games are making me say that. Its called a "figure of speech". Look it up sometime. And I said nerd as a joke seeing as its a video game and he pisses off video gamers. If someone who was speaking out against music, I would have said "I\'m amazed some musician hasn\'t iced him yet".  


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I know I\'m not the greatest example.  I know I\'m not the best person to be talking about this.  I\'m not a do good gamer.  Ashford was right,  I like games that have violence.  Final Fantasy,  and Metal Gear Solid.  I even have a avatar of Final Fantasy game where some girl is killing guys.


Ok, then shut up. You are a hypocrite.

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BUT,  I have my limits.  I can pass games (and movies) with minimal violence and games (and movies) that the violence is for the greater good,  not just for pleasure on money or drugs or thrills.


What the fuck are you talking about? You aren\'t even making any sense.

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Final Fantasy is violent because at times you do kill people,  but there is no blood.  Faceless guards fall down and dissappear.  In Final Fantasy VII they jus turned red and dissapeared.


So. Violent video games of the past didn\'t have blood yet I bet you rant about those.

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I do play the Metal Gear Solid series but its usually just a rental,  and while there is higher degree of violence in this game then others the game\'s storyline and graphics are what draw not me,  not the idea that you get to kill people which I hardly ever do in the game.


Seriously, you are making no sense and just making yourself out to be a moron. You won\'t buy the games but you\'ll rent them. You are still paying money to some company that already bought it. The only difference is you don\'t want to keep it for whatever reason. I\'ll rent too for a game just because I want to play and not bother paying 50 bucks for. Your logic is flawed. It makes no sense. "I won\'t buy because its violent, but I\'ll rent it and still pay my money for it". All that says is that you\'re an idiot and you\'re being thrifty.

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I remember way back in the Mortal Combat days.  My friends liked ripping the spinal cord out of enemies after they defeated them.  I never got it.  Why would you want to do that to anyone,  even a virtual character?  Over the top if you asked me.


Its a game dude. Its supposed to do things you wouldn\'t ordinarily see because it is deemed different and brings something original to a game. If they were all lifelike killings, it wouldn\'t be fun.

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Now there is Grand Theft Auto.  Note my post in this thread and others about videogame violence is directed at games like Grand Theft Auto and Dead Rising.

Grand Theft Auto puts people on the sidewalks,  lots of them,  their only purpose for you to rob them,  sleep with them,  or kill them.  

After killing innocent people the game encourages you to stomp them,  stab them,  or run them with a car.  Body parts can be cut of and spew blood.  The police is treated as the #1 enemy.


Who says it encourages you? I don\'t stomp people because I just want to move on in the game. Again, its a game and it gives you a chance to let out some aggression or do something you would never do. Give you a slight adrenaline rush.

What seperates the violence in Grand Theft Auto from most other games is that you kill innocent people for pleasure.  And the game encourages it.

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What if the next GTA came out where you could rape women?  Would it be wrong to do it,  even if it was just virtual?


That would be pretty interesting but I doubt they will. People know the violence in a game is just that, violence in a game. Everyone can distinguish reality from a fucking game.

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Delan Klebold and Aaron Harris.  They made a Doom map of their local highschool.


I\'m getting sick and tired of this fucking arguement. Whoopdee do, they played Doom. Big coincidence. They did what almost every other teen in the day did. Everyone played Doom but they make such a big deal about it because they killed people. So what they made a map of their high school. My friend did that with the game Chaser. He didn\'t kill anyone. Those maps don\'t make it look like the high school at all. All it was was rooms and hallways. You can\'t practice shit with that.

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Some replies in those topic joked about several violent ways this man should be killed,  just because he thinks the FILTH Rockstar makes should be destroyed.


Fine, how about this. Someone should kick him in the nuts until they rupture. Like you to find a link between that and video games.
 
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If somebody wants to shut down GTA,  more power to them


Never gonna happen. There is no arguement. Its rated M (maybe even Adult now. I\'d rather see it rated adult than M), some major retailers won\'t carry it AND its protected under the constitution in the first amendment and the government has NO right banning any form of media, no matter how violent it is.

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Talk to any old timer,  they all watch gunsmoke.  Lots of people died in Gunsmoke.  You know what happened when they died?  They just fell into the water trough.  Now days,  when  something dies there is brains,  intestines,  and other things getting ripped out or falling out and blood spewing everywhere .  That is SICK,  even if it is in a virtual world.  I\'m sorry you are so desensitized to violence you can no longer see any problem with it.


No shit. Special effects have improved that\'s why.

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Plenty of people hold my position.  It\'s time to start wondering whos brain should be examined.


Who? Christian Fundamentalists like yourself? Guess what. Most of America does not see your point of view. But because its yours, we have to take it as gold and you are 100% right and that it is true fact. Get over yourself. Not everyone thinks your way.

I\'m a communications major and I study this sort of thing. There has been no study to show that video games do make people violent or influence them to do violent acts. The people that do this shit are already messed up in the head and they would have pulled this stuff anyway. Studies show that people can distinguish virtual from reality, no matter how realistic it is. And if a parent gets their kid GTA, they need to have their kids taken away because they\'re just retarded.
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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2006, 06:54:42 PM »
I hate people who are so brainwashed. Grown people aren\'t this impressionable. So don\'t screw with my entertainment, please. Pick on the children.
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« Reply #24 on: December 21, 2006, 07:04:27 PM »
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Pick on the children.


Speaking of which, has Swifdi been around lately?
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« Reply #25 on: December 21, 2006, 09:11:58 PM »
i was going to make a comment, but titan perfectly countered everything clowd stated,...much RESPEC! Clowd you\'re lookin\' way too hard into this, it\'s just a game...don\'t like it? don\'t buy it, or play it...
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« Reply #26 on: December 22, 2006, 08:53:00 AM »
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i was going to make a comment, but titan perfectly countered everything clowd stated,...much RESPEC!


See? I can make worthwhile posts ;)
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« Reply #27 on: December 22, 2006, 06:56:26 PM »
One out of every 12,300. Not bad.
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« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2006, 08:38:05 PM »
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One out of every 12,300. Not bad.


They are pretty good odds, aren\'t they ;)
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