China...

I  ment threat but I am sure you were smart enough to understand and you only tried to mess with me again

[Titan]

I  ment threat but I am sure you were smart enough to understand and you only tried to mess with me again

No, I didn\'t try to mess with you. I figured you might have meant threat but how was I supposed to know? You misspelled the word every time you used it and in a way that is not used. I had no idea what you were trying to talk about.

oh no... they\'re 20 years behind us... pfff

to vaguely quote bush from his state of the union... "we are on the verge of technological breakthroughs that will free our dependence on oil."

beat that

[Titan]

Didn\'t he say that like the last 3 years?

oh no... they\'re 20 years behind us... pfff

to vaguely quote bush from his state of the union... "we are on the verge of technological breakthroughs that will free our dependence on oil."

beat that

I d say BULLSHIT!

Oil companies wont let that shift happen and neither would a politician dissapoint such powerful groups.

[Titan]

I d say BULLSHIT!

Oil companies wont let that shift happen and neither would a politician dissapoint such powerful groups.

Shell is one of the leading innovators of alternate fuels. The only big oil company that\'s really resisting is Exxon-Mobil. But they are sons of bitches. That\'s why I boycott them.

I\'m boycotting gasoline, as well.

[Titan]

I meant Exxon Mobil.

Shell is one of the leading innovators of alternate fuels. The only big oil company that\'s really resisting is Exxon-Mobil. But they are sons of bitches. That\'s why I boycott them.

Are there other oil companies there, are there collaborations with foregn oil companies, and how much is Shell willing to replace oil based fuels other than creating expectations btw?

I d like to learn more

[Titan]

Are there other oil companies there, are there collaborations with foregn oil companies, and how much is Shell willing to replace oil based fuels other than creating expectations btw?

I d like to learn more

If you want to learn more, go to their website.

There will always be some dependence on oil. A lot of plastics and stuff are derived from oil.

Gross oil consumption is not going anywhere until it is all gone....

[Titan]

Gross oil consumption is not going anywhere until it is all gone....

That\'s what I\'m afraid of. These companies have to realize that oil is not gonna be here forever. The future of their market is in alternate fuels. With as much money as they have, they can fund, manufacture and sell something like ethanol or mass manufacture E-85 (85% Ethanol, 15% gasoline) and have the best of both worlds. They\'ll be producing ethanol and still selling gasoline. Its win win for them if they shell out the money now. It would be beneficial to them in the long run. Atleast some companies like Shell are doing that. Shell has a big biodiesel program.

Gross oil consumption is not going anywhere until it is all gone....

We\'ll also have wars for that before they change

[Titan]

Yeah but those oil reserves are beginning to peak. Its said that Saudi Arabia\'s oil reserves have already peaked and will only go down. Same is supposed to be true or going to be true soon with most of the middle east.

So what does that say about the US fields which cannot be compared in anyway to the "others"

Wait..we dont drill where we can for conservative reasons. I bet that will change once the news gets out that the rest of the world is dry.

While I dont give a shit about that really. It\'s just how the US goes about it. Its ok to use and exploit everyone else resources and claim ours as national parks.

I really do not care as it will not happrn in our lifetime or our childrens lifetime... even still. We have the means to do alot and do not pursue it.