How crazy is this?

Also the name Gary Webb should be very helpful if you find the appropriate sources about his discovery and his assasination in 2004 which was made to look like a suicide. I happened to see his very last interview before he died

[Viper_Fujax]

i have no doubt the CIA right now is with drug smuggling. Best way to know what theyre doing is to join them and maybe theyll find the right time to strike. Dont want to blow their cover and stop some small drug traffic chain that doesnt mean anything in the long run. (would just make the drug dealers more savy to what we do)

but to say that all/most of the political leaders in latin america are CIA is a little off the wall..and by \'little\' i mean \'way\'

[Evi]

Also unlike YOUR country our university do not hire proffessors with a masters degree (PhD is the minimum)

I\'m pretty sure the minimum requirement here is also a PhD.

Its not my fault if Titan gave the wrong impression

i have no doubt the CIA right now is with drug smuggling. Best way to know what theyre doing is to join them and maybe theyll find the right time to strike. Dont want to blow their cover and stop some small drug traffic chain that doesnt mean anything in the long run. (would just make the drug dealers more savy to what we do)

but to say that all/most of the political leaders in latin america are CIA is a little off the wall..and by \'little\' i mean \'way\'

There are many things we may not know about that may seem like a "little off the wall" if they ever get revealed. Do you think every bit of those we do not know about will be believed if they ever come to the surface?

Just as surprised as you are now reading this, I was as well when I ve heard this and just as surprised was the person who saw it. And that person isnt the kind that throws gibberish. Otherwise his career would have been limited to teaching.

I was even more surprised learning how increasingly powerful CIA was during the Cold War era. Surprising and unbelievable were the projects, and operations of the KGB. Even more unbelievable was the outlandish but unexpectedly effective Nazi propaganda. It would have sounded utopian if we didnt have masses of people seeing this with their own eyes, where mysticism and mythology became tools of false belief. Even crazier were the operations, and secret plans of the Nazi "empire". Irrationality replaces rationality completely.

And the most recent example of this irrationality is the Iraq War itself, backed up by arguements by the government that sounded rational and real to the US citizens (perhaps including you as well back then) but completely crazy and unspeakable by those who had knowledge of what was actually going on in middle east, how these people in the east thought and the lies that covered other "unbelievable" motives many in the US considered "exagerating parania". Yet those who warned were mocked for being "propagandized" or called "stupid" by the west.

Which shows how subjective someone\'s impression of "way/little off the wall" may be according to the backround in which he grows in.

[Titan]

Hey. I was just saying I didn\'t believe what you said. You said the professor said that the CIA is involved in drug smuggling and that all latin politicians are involved in the CIA. I\'m taking your words literally.

1)almost all Latin American leaders/politicians were secret CIA agents

2)CIA does drug smuggling

Your words. I\'m taking what you say completely literally and I don\'t believe a word. I don\'t care how much credit this guy is given, I still think its bullshit.

[Viper_Fujax]

so are you saying that the CIA is doing it for their own profit/personal gain?

if you believe that then join the herd of sheep

and im not "surprised." I said i expect the CIA to be somewhere with the drug smugglers doing what the CIA does and has been doing for a long ass time. And im not surprised that theyre the majority of the latin american politicians since i highly doubt that.

And your comparisons don\'t fit. Especially the nazi propoganda.

a phd in one subject does not mean he\'s knowledgeable in another

My co-worker has 2 masters but can\'t even put my suppository in correctly, I have to ask the Janitor who doesn\'t even have a degree.

On another note Bin Laden has the power to have Al Qaeda members trained to be pilots, who will know the ins and outs of a passenger plane, get in without being suspected of their plans, master a super grand scheme, confuse the airforce and the control tower and be able with just a knife (or a gun no one noticed at the check up?) to take over and try to crash them to the twin towers, the pentagon and the white house.......Sounds like a Hollywood movie

 Before 2001 this would have been the stupidest thing ever if someone said
"hey Bin will make you shit in your pants and he can do this". Come on get real. How can a peasant who cant even dress well and doesnt have enough arm power be able to do such a thing.

 After the 9/11 attack happens and everything (and when I say everything I mean EVREYTHING) said is believed about the great Islam "terrorists".

 And now this thing about CIA (more organised, more advanced more powerfull than Al Qaeda and porbably than any other secret intelligence agency) which is less extreme sounds like "bullshit" to your ears.

Atleast even if its not proven and dont believe the source still, you should wonder than call anything related fake.

so are you saying that the CIA is doing it for their own profit/personal gain?

if you believe that then join the herd of sheep

and im not "surprised." I said i expect the CIA to be somewhere with the drug smugglers doing what the CIA does and has been doing for a long ass time. And im not surprised that theyre the majority of the latin american politicians since i highly doubt that.

And your comparisons don\'t fit. Especially the nazi propoganda.

Who knows? You may be in the herd of sheep. Would you know?

Who said anything about the reasons they may be doing it? I didnt say anything about it. If I assume its true I can only make guesses and there are many good guesses but thats irrelevant

You missed the point completely. I didnt compare any of these to CIA.

The point of it is that people dismiss something that is not widespreadly known and seen but sounds crazy. there are ton of things that sound logical, because they are being taught to us despite that they are outlandish factual happenings. If something is not widely known and sounds oultandish (sounds but may not be) is dismissed and called fake. There is no questioning or pondering "perhaps there might be some truth in this"

Also I didnt say he said it thus I believe it. I see it as a huge very logical possibility, because there have been some events

Hey. I was just saying I didn\'t believe what you said. You said the professor said that the CIA is involved in drug smuggling and that all latin politicians are involved in the CIA. I\'m taking your words literally.



Your words. I\'m taking what you say completely literally and I don\'t believe a word. I don\'t care how much credit this guy is given, I still think its bullshit.

I dont care how you take it. These were the 2 points in my initial post which your brain although can catch bolts in bottles cant understand them in my posts. So I thought "hey lets make it as simple as possible since his brain might explode"

 He didnt go as far as to tell us whats true or false. He just told us what he happened to see. 5 seconds talk. End of story. He isnt the knowledgable person and neither did he claim to be or did I claim it. He is just like me and you who due to his proffesion he accidentally stumbled upon it.

But this was never a secret anyways. Such matters were brought many times into public media which were later covered and forgotten

As for CIA doing drug smuggling he wasnt the one who said "hey CIA does drug smuggling in Latin America". He said its a possibility when he was being asked if what he saw was a connecting indication and real.

[Titan]

Wow. The only thing I have to say about your last three posts is that my head hurts trying to comprehend your grammar and writing skills.

You have no evidence about anything you have said. You just keep going back to how your professor had a PhD. Viper was absolutely right. Just because htey have a PhD in one subject, doesn\'t mean they are knowledgeable in another. I\'ve had professors say in writing arts that had a PhD started talking about psychology. They got it wrong. You can\'t take everything they say as fact just because they have a PhD. They are people just like everyone else. If my writing professor was giving me advice about writing, then I\'ll pay close attention. But if my writing professor was talking about geography, then I don\'t take it worth a grain of salt. Again, just because they have a PhD, doesn\'t mean they know everything.

[Paul2]

^^^
I agreed with your post there.  And I also got confused on Unicron last two or three posts too.

Actually YOU got stuck into the PhD and master or whatever thing. Also I still fail to see what do PhD subjects have anything to do with this.

Also I already said that I dont base it on the fact that he has PhD that is proof he knows because he never acted like he was an expert or that he has information no one else has anyways. If there is someone who got stuck into the "proffesor" "PhD" thing  or took my words as if I claimed he knows secret stuff is you. Quite clearly because it sounds so farfetched for you, you already made up your mind, and you dont even want to bother (which is just about list he saw).

You even put words into my mouth and had a very negative, arrogant attitude from the  beginning

^^^
I agreed with your post there.  And I also got confused on Unicron last two or three posts too.

Sorry about that, but thats because they had their minds already determined. They put so many words into my mouth and replied with so many attacks and irrelevant points that I couldnt keep up.

One of my points was that they directly dismiss this possibility, but at the same time even crazier things happened.

Thats why I mentioned the 9/11 attack. If I came in 2000 and said a peasant like Bin Landen has this great plan to hijack planes and crash them onto the WTC, White House and Pentagon by training Al Qaeda members, who will manage to pass security and take over with the help of a knife it would have sounded even more farfetched and superstupid. Almost like a hollywood movie script.

Yet it happened for real, and after that people believe in farfetched lies about the middle east, but something as less extreme as what I mentioned all of the sudden sounds like "bullshit". Instead of thinking about the possibility I get attacked about the credibility and the persons PhD. Well f*ck it then

Get back on topic please.