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« Reply #45 on: June 12, 2008, 01:00:54 PM »
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That is why the democrats in congress blocked a vote for allowing off shore drilling.  The same thing they have been doing for a decade.  Sure it will take 7 years or so for it to make an impact, but the Democrats in Congress have opposed this since it was proposed.  Fuck the tree huggers.


But there\'s no trees off shore :confused:
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« Reply #46 on: June 12, 2008, 04:44:52 PM »
Make them hug sea urchins - you like that better?
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« Reply #47 on: June 12, 2008, 06:46:53 PM »
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That is why the democrats in congress blocked a vote for allowing off shore drilling.  The same thing they have been doing for a decade.  Sure it will take 7 years or so for it to make an impact, but the Democrats in Congress have opposed this since it was proposed.  Fuck the tree huggers.



Yeah..i\'ve heard that,...in a sense i kinda agree that they shouldn\'t if the risk to marine life is extremely high,...but i\'ve heard that china is already aggresively pursuing off water drilling very close to u.s. waters,...and with the way this gas thing is going, i agree that it is time to take another look at that option.
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« Reply #48 on: June 12, 2008, 07:41:57 PM »
China is not drilling offshore  The Chinese have an onshore agreement with Cuba and offshore they have been doing seismic testing.
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« Reply #49 on: June 13, 2008, 06:32:02 AM »
This is not true, Clips is correct the Cubans and the Chinese are drilling 60 miles off of Key West.  

A fact that has been brought up quite a few times lately is that during Katrina, not one oil rig in the Gulf had any problems.  Not one leak.  Those rigs also attract marine life because they are sort of an artificial reef for that life.  

Countries like Norway, Denmark and Holland are aggressively drilling off shore and those countries are very "green".  They don\'t have accidents and all of the above goes to show that drilling technology has vastly improved over the past decade to make it safe for the environment.

There is no reason we shouldn\'t be tapping the reserves we have both offshore and onshore.  Unless the governments grand plan is to suck the rest of world dry by paying through the roof to import oil and then use our own when they run out - to me that is a stretch.
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« Reply #50 on: June 13, 2008, 08:22:38 AM »
http://www.miamiherald.com/campaign08/story/567156.html

"WASHINGTON -- With gas topping $4 a gallon, some Republicans are pointing to Cuba once again to bolster their case that the U.S. should be drilling along Florida\'s coastline.

The claim: China has Cuban leases to drill for oil -- miles from the Florida shore.

Even Vice President Dick Cheney got into the mix Wednesday, telling the U.S. Chamber of Commerce that ``oil is being drilled right now 60 miles off the coast of Florida. We\'re not doing it. The Chinese are in cooperation with the Cuban government.

\'\'Even the communists have figured out that a good answer to high prices is more supply,\'\' he added. ``Yet Congress has said . . . no to drilling off Florida.\'\'

But industry experts and other observers say there is zero evidence that China is drilling in Cuban waters, and doesn\'t even hold a lease to drill offshore.

\'\'China is not drilling in Cuba\'s Gulf of Mexico waters, period,\'\' said Jorge Piñon, an energy expert at the University of Miami\'s Center for Hemispheric Policy.

Rising gas prices are prompting renewed efforts to open Florida waters to drilling, and the specter of oil-thirsty China slurping up nearby reserves is helping to fuel the push: In recent days, House Republican leaders have penned newspaper opinion pieces making the claim.

`DEBUNKING THE MYTH\'

The renewed efforts prompted Florida Sen. Mel Martinez, who opposes drilling off Florida\'s coast, to take to the Senate floor Wednesday to -- as his office put it -- \'\'debunk the myth\'\' of China drilling in Cuban waters.

\'\'Reports to the contrary are simply false,\'\' Martinez said, his remarks delivered just before Cheney spoke. ``They are akin to urban legends. China drilling off the coast of Cuba only 60 miles from the Keys, that is not taking place. . . Any talk of using some fabricated Cuba-China connection as an argument to change U.S. policy has no merit.\'\'

House Minority Leader John Boehner\'s office defended the GOP drilling claims, pointing to a 2006 New York Times story that noted Cuba had ``negotiated lease agreements with China and other energy-hungry countries to extract resources.\'\'

\'\'The fact is China can drill off the coast of the United States and Americans can\'t,\'\' said Boehner spokesman Michael Steel. ``At a time when the nationwide average price for a gallon of gas is over $4, that policy just doesn\'t make sense.\'\'

The latest effort to bring drilling closer to Florida\'s shores by lifting a decades-old ban on gas and oil exploration along the outer continental shelf was rapidly defeated Wednesday in a House subcommittee meeting along partisan lines. Democrats on the panel said the measure was \'\'unnecessary\'\' because most of the known reserves along the coast are already open for drilling. Committee Chairman Rep. Norm Dicks, a Washington state Democrat, noted that the Bush administration, too, opposes lifting the ban.

PUSHING THE MEASURE

But Rep. John Peterson, a Pennsylvania Republican, said he plans to keep pushing the measure, which would allow drilling 50 miles beyond the shoreline.

Florida\'s congressional delegation remains staunchly opposed to offshore drilling, and Martinez noted the delegation had reached a compromise in December 2006 to give up eight million acres in the Gulf of Mexico in exchange for the state getting at least a 125-mile buffer zone from drilling.

Piñon, who supports oil and gas exploration, said he met with several congressional offices Wednesday about the China-Cuba connection. He said he told them: \' `If you guys want to use this as a scare tactic to lift the moratorium on drilling off the west coast of Florida, at least be factual, be correct.\' They didn\'t do their homework.\'\'

China\'s Sinopec oil company does have an agreement with the Cuban government to develop onshore resources west of Havana, Piñon said. The Chinese have done some seismic testing, he said, but no drilling. Western diplomats in Havana told McClatchy that to the best of their knowledge there is no Chinese drilling offshore.

Cuba\'s state oil company, Cupet, has issued exploration contracts to companies from India, Canada, Spain, Malaysia and Norway. But many oil companies from those countries have expressed reservations about how to turn potential crude oil into product. Cuba doesn\'t have the refinery capacity, and the biggest potential market -- the U.S. -- is off limits because of the trade embargo."
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« Reply #51 on: June 13, 2008, 04:11:54 PM »
blame the hippie liberals.

they won\'t let us build new refineries, oil drilling platforms, or even a damn nuclear power plant without crying their eyes out.
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« Reply #52 on: June 13, 2008, 04:47:43 PM »
Ok I stand corrected - but inevitably it will happen...

... China is seeking oil everywhere and Cuba is no exception. Three large Chinese companies, SINOPEC, Petro China and CINOOC - China National Offshore Corporation, are involved in a large agreement, perhaps already underway, for coastal and deep-water explorations. Most significant to this topic, especially in light of other Chinese investment in Cuba, is the fact that Sinopec, China\'s second largest oil company, has stated a goal of helping boost Cuba\'s domestic oil production and producing 60% of its oil needs by 2006 ... Additional plans for exploration and development of other blocs of potential reserves were announced by two other Chinese oil companies, China National Petroleum Corp. and China National Offshore Oil Corp., after talks with CUPET, Cuba Petroleum. Some exploration will be in coastal regions but much, based on the better quality of the oil, will take place in off-shore deep waters.
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« Reply #53 on: June 13, 2008, 06:33:32 PM »
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blame the hippie liberals.

they won\'t let us build new refineries, oil drilling platforms, or even a damn nuclear power plant without crying their eyes out.


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« Reply #54 on: June 13, 2008, 06:36:45 PM »
Don\'t knock it till you\'ve tried it Titan. Ask Unicorn.
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« Reply #55 on: June 13, 2008, 08:01:10 PM »
Thats Unicron. And yes I am a hippie and live in a hut :p

Jokes aside I ve seen someone living with simple means like a hippie but had a happier life than us.

Regardless we should remember that as long as there are lots of money involved the consequences will be underestimated or ignored unless these consequences are translated to money losses.

My father knows someone who worked at a nuclear power station and that guy refused to eat fish after what he had seen (I have no idea what he saw but I was surprised that he refused to eat fish no matter the country he lived in).

Occasions where scientists have been bribed by oil companies are many too. Further more years ago an oil company in the United States that funded a school, provided false educational content that deliberately underestimated the consequences of gas emissions and even claimed that global warming helps the environment.

We need alternative sources of energy that are more efficient and effective.

Tesla had developed such technologies but were never put into practice. Only recently some scientists have tried to put some of Tesla\'s theories into practice, one being a generator that generates energy through magnets at a university in Hungary
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« Reply #56 on: June 13, 2008, 08:19:07 PM »
I do not doubt that China will drill soon. I just wanted the facts clear. Hell  of the top 5 world banks 3 are Chinese.
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« Reply #57 on: June 14, 2008, 02:15:39 AM »
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My father knows someone who worked at a nuclear power station and that guy refused to eat fish after what he had seen (I have no idea what he saw but I was surprised that he refused to eat fish no matter the country he lived in).

And I refuse to eat fish after having seen one cleaned (no joke).
And I know people who won\'t eat hamburger after having seen a slaughter farm.

So, what exactly is your point?
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« Reply #58 on: June 14, 2008, 06:40:20 AM »
uh oh, this can\'t end well :)
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« Reply #59 on: June 14, 2008, 06:41:08 AM »
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And I refuse to eat fish after having seen one cleaned (no joke).
And I know people who won\'t eat hamburger after having seen a slaughter farm.

So, what exactly is your point?
There seems to be a considerable amount of waste in the seas from these nuclear power stations
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