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Xbox 360 RRoD Failures are as high as 40 - 80% range
« on: June 12, 2008, 01:53:41 AM »
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Xbox 360 RRoD Failures Finally Explained

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The Xbox 360\'s proclivity for suffering the infamous three red lights / Red Ring of Death hardware failure is legend these days. Despite Microsoft\'s initial claims that hardware failures were a slim 3% through much of the console\'s first year of availability, the gaming community knew otherwise, with real-world failure rates estimated to be in the 40-80% range for consoles manufactured in the first production runs.

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wow.  I didn\'t know the red ring of deaths on the 360s are that high.  I guess Microsoft learned it lesson there.

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Xbox 360 RRoD Failures are as high as 40 - 80% range
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2008, 02:02:31 AM »
I am not amazed. Even over here there are countless of 360\'s traveling by UPS to get them fixed.

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« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2008, 02:41:38 AM »
i just realized that I didn\'t post the entire article about it...here is the rest of the article about microsoft explaining about why it\'s that high:

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After a great deal of pressure, Microsoft tacitly recognized the RRoD epidemic, and announced extended warranty support that would cost the company more than one-billion dollars. Microsoft refused, however, to discuss exactly what had caused so many consoles to fail, noting only that the problem stemmed from a "design issue."

The gaming public, however, was well aware of the truth of the situation after a number of peeps in the modding community opened their broken consoles and found the 360\'s GPU had run too hot, resulting in warped motherboards, unseated chips, and disconnected heat-sinks. Such evidence was only given greater credential when redesigned Falcon Xbox 360s arrived with a newly beefed up heatsink on the GPU.

Though RRoD failures are now generally a thing of the past after several chipset redesigns on Microsoft\'s part, the question has long remained as to how Microsoft allowed critically flawed Xbox 360 consoles to reach production, much less become a billion-dollar epidemic. Today, light seems to have finally been shed on the issue, as eetimes.com reports from the Design Automation Conference.

Speaking at the show, Bryan Lewis, research vice president and chief analyst at Gartner, revealed that Microsoft, bucking industry norms in what was hoped to be a cost-saving decision, chose not to seek the input of a traditional ASIC (application-specific integrated circuit) vendor in designing the architecture of the 360\'s GPU. Relying purely upon in-house processor-architecture design expertise (or lack thereof), Microsoft went directly to Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Co to put the Xbox 360\'s GPU chips into production.

The result was the mass production of ungainly processors that ran quite inefficiently, generating far more waste heat than expected. According to Lewis, had Microsoft brought an ASIC vendor into the design process, a far more elegant chip architecture would likely have been developed, leading to much cooler-running GPUs for the Xbox 360. Bryan Lewis noted that Microsoft has since developed a new version of the Xbox 360 GPU with the support of an established ASIC vendor, widely thought to be ATI / AMD.
A very big lesson learned there from Microsoft I suppose.
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« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2008, 08:28:02 AM »
"40 to 80 percent"

Whoever wrote that article is an idiot.
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« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2008, 08:54:48 AM »
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"40 to 80 percent"

Whoever wrote that article is an idiot.


Agreed. It should be 100% for the first batch of 360s. It\'s a matter of time before all of them get the RRoD.
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« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2008, 09:12:46 AM »
I had to get my 360 replaced 4 times before I gave up on it and bought a PS3.
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« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 11:34:46 AM »
If only PS3 sold enough to get a respectable number of complaints. :(
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« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 11:57:23 AM »
Um?
I had a post in here saying mine had not RROD.
Any reason that was deleted also?
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« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 12:32:34 PM »
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Um?
I had a post in here saying mine had not RROD.
Any reason that was deleted also?


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« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2008, 02:14:29 AM »
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Obviously.

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« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2008, 03:50:35 AM »
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Obviously.

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:laughing:....if somebody is really deleting posts, they really need to stop that s**t...it\'s not even funny anymore....on another note my son\'s friend had a 360 for about 5 months and his unit just went on him,...i guess there is something going on with those 360\'s....
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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2008, 04:12:55 AM »
guess?

i\'m on my 4th refurb.
i should just sell it while they still have some value.
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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2008, 05:12:13 AM »
I\'m surprised mine is still going, but it is.
I am waiting on Fable 2...I figure it\'ll die on the launch date of Fable 2.
Just the way I figure.
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« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2008, 07:21:37 AM »
All that shit will come to PC eventually anyways.
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« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2008, 08:56:03 AM »
as shitty bugged ports. all the series i care about on pc are pretty much gone unless dice manages to release battlefield 3 in the next few years and make a game as good as bf2.

I\'ve had one 360 die, and im definitly paranoid that this ones going to crap out at any point. but whatever..i\'ve already put a lot of hours into the console between mass effect, AC, cod4, dirt, gta4, vegas, and a handful of others.
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