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Offline Mr. Kennedy
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« Reply #135 on: October 23, 2008, 06:48:37 AM »
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Exactly.

Go back to 1776 and shut the fuck up.

Don\'t forget your slaves.

Actually there\'s nothing in the constitution about slavery, that was more of culture issue than a legal issue.

Why do you hate this country so much?

If you like socialism/communism so much why do you move to Cuba or China?  Right, because they treat their citizens like shit.
« Last Edit: October 23, 2008, 06:50:36 AM by Mr. Kennedy »
\"In the last 12 months 100,000 private sector jobs have been lost and yet you\'ve created 30,000 public sector jobs. Prime Minister, you cannot carry on forever squeezing the productive bit of the economy in order to fund an unprecidented engorgement of the unproductive bit. You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt.\" - Daniel Hannan

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« Reply #136 on: October 23, 2008, 07:19:05 AM »
Don\'t change the subject. Your/Ron\'s ideas are outdated and inapplicable in the US.

I don\'t hate the US, I love it all my internet forum buddies live there and it produces most of my past times (tv, porn) better than any other country.

I live in Canada, it\'s socialist probably by your definition.
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« Reply #137 on: October 23, 2008, 07:26:49 AM »
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Don\'t change the subject. Your/Ron\'s ideas are outdated and inapplicable in the US.

I don\'t hate the US, I love it all my internet forum buddies live there and it produces most of my past times (tv, porn) better than any other country.

I live in Canada, it\'s socialist probably by your definition.


Aren\'t they going to cut down on the health care funding? At least that\'s what I read a year ago. More and more people are getting tired of getting fleeced by your growing fatty sick population.
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« Reply #138 on: October 23, 2008, 07:35:50 AM »
No they are going to increase health care funding...the Conservative government that is. Both parties are committed to the health care issue. Lobbyists go to the US for that.
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« Reply #139 on: October 23, 2008, 07:37:12 AM »
Please take our fat people.
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« Reply #140 on: October 23, 2008, 07:43:29 AM »
Fat people make up for the diabetes and heart surgery costs by spending money on food.

That\'s gotta make sense.
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« Reply #141 on: October 23, 2008, 09:40:44 AM »
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Don\'t change the subject. Your/Ron\'s ideas are outdated and inapplicable in the US.

I don\'t hate the US, I love it all my internet forum buddies live there and it produces most of my past times (tv, porn) better than any other country.

I live in Canada, it\'s socialist probably by your definition.

You dodged a question.  If you truly want communism go live in a socialist country like cuba or China... then come back and tell me how much you love socialism/communism.

I live in NYC, probably the most socialist like city in the country, and it sucks, state and city taxes are ridiculous since Guliani left office.
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\"In the last 12 months 100,000 private sector jobs have been lost and yet you\'ve created 30,000 public sector jobs. Prime Minister, you cannot carry on forever squeezing the productive bit of the economy in order to fund an unprecidented engorgement of the unproductive bit. You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt.\" - Daniel Hannan

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« Reply #142 on: October 23, 2008, 09:58:43 AM »
I didn\'t dodge shit. Unlike you, who continues to dodge by making stupid points I don\'t care about. But since I like to argue

CANADA IS A SOCIALIST COUNTRY BY YOUR DEFINITION

So are most Western European countries too. How do they work out? Know anything about the quality of life in Canada? Know anything besides the 1776 garbage Ron Paul spews out and you swallow down?

At least your better than Giga. When he\'s proving wrong he just takes a leave of absence from the forum and comes back with new garbage. Normally I like persistence but you border on something else.

Cuba\'s infant mortality rate is higher than the US\'s I think. China is becoming the next superpower.
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« Reply #143 on: October 23, 2008, 10:27:11 AM »
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ugh... liberals

You do know that the sweeping changes you\'re pitching as Ron Paul\'s ideas (I don\'t follow him, so you\'re representing all of my knowledge about the guy) are pretty f\'in liberal.
 
i.e. 1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
 
If you\'re not happy with the way things are or how they\'re going. Then reform is your baby, not ours.
 
We might kick around some tax codes and health care ideas, but a sweeping overhaul of the whole works? That\'s pretty liberal.
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« Reply #144 on: October 23, 2008, 12:06:25 PM »
I guess I\'ll split this up into two...

Jumpman, Canada is a democracy, and they have a mixed economy, just like the US. While they exhibit slightly more socialist qualities, they are not a socialist country. As far as my personal definition, yes I consider redistribution of wealth socialism, but I would argue that the US is more socialist than Canada, and I\'ve done some research:

http://www.thetrumpet.com/index.php?q=5516.3835.0.0

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Over the past couple of years, U.S. officials have cried foul over Vladimir Putin’s state-orchestrated takeovers of the private sector—repeatedly criticizing him for grabbing oil and energy companies and military manufacturers. But in a way you have to give Putin credit. At least he seized companies that boosted government revenues. Fannie and Freddie have the potential to become a black hole sucking up hundreds of billions of tax dollars.

Is that what you democrats consider a good investment? Yes I know Bush pushed for the bill as well, but as I\'ve stated, he\'s not exactly my favorite person, and hardly a traditional conservative.

You did dodge the question the first time, but answered it the second time. If I have dodged any questions, please lay them out and I will answer them as best I can.

Examples of socialist states:

USSR - do I even need to get into this?

China - yes they are on the verge of being the world\'s superpower, but how do their citizen\'s fare? Personal rights are an afterthought there... one child per family, censorship, government controls the media and internet over there, not to mention they lead the world in capital punishment. Yikes! You may like that kind of life, but I certainly don\'t.

Cuba - and here are their feelings on human rights... torture, arbitrary imprisonment, unfair trials, extra-judicial executions.

Laos - yay! their economy is funded by drugs!

The point is there\'s a lot less communist states than there used to be, and for good reason, it doesn\'t work. China may be the exception, but at what cost?

Eiksirf -

when I say liberals I\'m referring to the people, not the ideology. Ron Paul\'s economic ideas are very liberal, but not his social ideas. This is probably more of mistake on my part for lumping liberals into one category. I like to correct people when they call Bush and McCain conservatives because their not, they\'re neocons, which is pretty much the same thing as a democrat. I should just cut out the middle man and call it for what they are, republicrats. Because no matter who wins this election, I lose.
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« Reply #145 on: October 23, 2008, 12:06:29 PM »
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\"In the last 12 months 100,000 private sector jobs have been lost and yet you\'ve created 30,000 public sector jobs. Prime Minister, you cannot carry on forever squeezing the productive bit of the economy in order to fund an unprecidented engorgement of the unproductive bit. You cannot spend your way out of recession or borrow your way out of debt.\" - Daniel Hannan

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« Reply #146 on: October 23, 2008, 12:22:56 PM »
"Your/Ron\'s ideas are outdated and inapplicable in the US."

thats all i was talking about, and that article doesn\'t back up any of the ron paul madness

the china and cuba stuff i just threw out to see if you\'d bite
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« Reply #147 on: October 23, 2008, 12:28:56 PM »
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"Your/Ron\'s ideas are outdated and inapplicable in the US."

thats all i was talking about, and that article doesn\'t back up any of the ron paul madness

the china and cuba stuff i just threw out to see if you\'d bite


How is personal freedom inapplicable in the US?  When did liberty and choice become outdated?  Why is non-intervention a bad foreign policy?  Why is the gold standard a bad economic policy?
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« Reply #148 on: October 23, 2008, 12:52:25 PM »
How is pro life choice? And hey Ron, how about loosening up on your anti gun control policies mmm? Non intervention works, plus one for thinking what most do.

None of these big philosophies and ideas are usable in the US today. Tossing out bright and colorful words like liberty and freedom stimulates positive output while socialism scares, basic politics bs. Guess what happens when you make less government...the economy eventually collapses. Time and time again we\'ve seen this. People can\'t run themselves. Never raise taxes are you serious? Getting rid of most government programs wah...

The gold standard...no idea what that is. A new form of slave labor?
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« Reply #149 on: October 23, 2008, 01:01:58 PM »
I personally am Pro-Life, but as far as government goes, it should really be the states decision whether abortion is legal or not.

Our current gun control system keeps guns in the hands of criminals and out of citizens who want it for self defense.  Logic fail on your part.

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Guess what happens when you make less government...the economy eventually collapses.


Biggest assumption ever, and incorrect.  Our current situation was caused by too much government involvement, oh that\'s right, I guess you didn\'t watch those videos I posted.  You probably thought they were bullshit and didn\'t feel like watching them, way to stay informed.

Go look up austrian economics and you\'ll see how misinformed your statement is.
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