Final Presidential Debate...

Joe continues...

“So yeah, it goes down the socialist — His health-care plan scares me. You know, I don’t like people going without health care, but it’s not my job to pay for everyone else’s health care. It’s hard enough paying for my own. I like the idea of deregulation as far as — nationally, you know, you only get insurance companies that can work in this state — if you deregulate that then you have more people competing and then the prices would go lower. It seems pretty simple to me. It probably isn’t that simple — but you flood the market with more products, usually they go down cheaper.”

I can play with numbers too.

http://drudgereport.com/

MCCAIN
   72%    194,843
OBAMA
   27%    71,726
NEITHER
   1%    3,614

Total Votes: 270,183

I can play with numbers too.

http://drudgereport.com/

An internet poll????  :shy:

An internet poll????  :shy:

Where are your poll numbers coming from?  The site of the debate?  New York?  A heavily democratic state?

I don\'t get you.  Polls are polls, no matter where they come from.  Numbers can be manipulated.  In the end there\'s only one poll that matters and that one takes place on November 4th.

I don\'t get you. Polls are polls, no matter where they come from. Numbers can be manipulated. In the end there\'s only one poll that matters and that one takes place on November 4th.

OK Fine, whatever.  I don\'t post poll data here except to correct FALSE data posted by someone else.
 
Internet polls have been criticised here at PSX2Central for many years because they are so hackable.
 
When the polls aren\'t going your way, you can say they don\'t matter.  That\'s OK with me.  

During Ron Paul\'s run for the President he fared very well in polls, so I was extremely optimistic about his chances.  The grim reality was much different, so you\'ll have to excuse me if I don\'t get too enthused about polls.

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Minus almost no one gives a flyin\' rat\'s ass about Ron Paul? Other than his select groupies (see: you).

I would totally be swayed on my health care position if more insurance companies could be started to create more marketplace competition and lower healthcare costs somehow that way.

I also am not surprised about, was it Joe, who owns a business that makes more than $250,000 and wants to vote Republican. That\'s pretty much the differance. Breaks for people who don\'t need them = Republican. Fool enough poor people into voting that way because of things like guns and religion, and you\'re able to support your bloated upper class beaurocracy.

The rest of the work force can piss off.

Democrats want to help the majority of people, giving breaks to those who need it and this makes people like $250,000 business owner Joe upset. 3% increase.

Joe wants more and more, too, he just wants it for himself as opposed to poor people who want it for themselves.

So you either believe in a common standard of living provided through things like minimum wage and hopefully affordable healthcare, or you believe that everyone can become the boss who makes enough money to not worry about the rest of the free world.

I would totally be swayed on my health care position if more insurance companies could be started to create more marketplace competition and lower healthcare costs somehow that way.

I also am not surprised about, was it Joe, who owns a business that makes more than $250,000 and wants to vote Republican. That\'s pretty much the differance. Breaks for people who don\'t need them = Republican. Fool enough poor people into voting that way because of things like guns and religion, and you\'re able to support your bloated upper class beaurocracy.

The rest of the work force can piss off.

Democrats want to help the majority of people, giving breaks to those who need it and this makes people like $250,000 business owner Joe upset. 3% increase.

Joe wants more and more, too, he just wants it for himself as opposed to poor people who want it for themselves.

So you either believe in a common standard of living provided through things like minimum wage and hopefully affordable healthcare, or you believe that everyone can become the boss who makes enough money to not worry about the rest of the free world.

The lazy don\'t deserve shit.  "Joe" busts his ass to get ahead only to be punished by Obama so he can spread the wealth around.  

Joe is living the American dream and last I checked that is the goal of everyone, unfortunately, everyone can\'t be successful.  If you want Socialism Eik, move to Europe.  The government should not try and equalize this imbalance by rewarding the unsuccessful or the less hard working people.

All Republlicans aren\'t rich.  Poor blacks are controlled by the Democrats with promises of entitlements.  Poor Republicans buy into the dream that with hard work they too can succeed.  Huge difference.

The lazy don\'t deserve shit. "Joe" busts his ass to get ahead only to be punished by Obama so he can spread the wealth around.

Joe\'s big punishment is an tax increase of 3%, which only restores him to the tax rate in place before George Bush\'s failed tax policy which ran up a $450 B deficit.
 
Let us not forget that rich managers like Joe can afford to hire tax accountants who are skilled in finding numerous deductions and loopholes to further limit their tax liability.  The poor and middle class don\'t have those same resources.
 
My heart is breaking for Joe the rich plumber.

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Poor blacks are controlled by the Democrats with promises of entitlements.  Poor Republicans buy into the dream that with hard work they too can succeed.  Huge difference.

I guess i\'m old fashioned...i don\'t consider myself poor, but i\'m certaintly not rich and not making over $250,000....and i\'ve always told my kids that if you want to be successful, you have to go to college, work hard, and continue to pursue and advance your education....y\'know just basic fundamentals....and *gasp*...i\'m black and a dem!!..:eek:....stop with the po\' blacks argument....that ignorant mindset is slowly creeping back up to the surface.

So only poor republicans know the meaning of hard work and success?......c\'mon...i\'ve started out in the projects of newark,..went to a trade school for I.T. moved out of the projects to the suburbs of piscataway,nj (upper middle class btw)...saved my money and purchased a brand new 4 BR 2 1/2 bath home in georgia three years ago....but i guess only poor republicans can accomplish those kinds of things right?

Joe\'s big punishment is an tax increase of 3%, which only restores him to the tax rate in place before George Bush\'s failed tax policy which ran up a $450 B deficit.
 
Let us not forget that rich managers like Joe can afford to hire tax accountants who are skilled in finding numerous deductions and loopholes to further limit their tax liability.  The poor and middle class don\'t have those same resources.
 
My heart is breaking for Joe the rich plumber.

So you believe money should be taken away from the successful and given to the poor?

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I guess i\'m old fashioned...i don\'t consider myself poor, but i\'m certaintly not rich and not making over $250,000....and i\'ve always told my kids that if you want to be successful, you have to go to college, work hard, and continue to pursue and advance your education....y\'know just basic fundamentals....and *gasp*...i\'m black and a dem!!..:eek:....stop with the po\' blacks argument....that ignorant mindset is slowly creeping back up to the surface.

So only poor republicans know the meaning of hard work and success?......c\'mon...i\'ve started out in the projects of newark,..went to a trade school for I.T. moved out of the projects to the suburbs of piscataway,nj (upper middle class btw)...saved my money and purchased a brand new 4 BR 2 1/2 bath home in georgia three years ago....but i guess only poor republicans can accomplish those kinds of things right?

Uhm...just like gman...i hate posting at the bottom of a page as well...

So you believe money should be taken away from the successful and given to the poor?

He obviously feels the rich don\'t deserve to be rich.  You shouldn\'t have to work hard to have money.  Why would you when you have government handouts?

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what box in a cave do you guys live in where the rich are good and hard-working and the poor are bad and lazy? wish i lived in a world as black and white as you guys