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Obama\'s release of the interrogation techniques
« on: April 23, 2009, 04:46:40 AM »
This article is more of an opinion piece, but i agree with most of it. While i do feel that Obama has done exceptionally well in the short of amount of time in dealing with the economy...i felt he kinda stumbled here....He keeps stating that while he released the reports, he doesn\'t feel like looking back, but to look forward....and when pressed about would he prosecute those responsible, he wimps out and leaves it up to the attorney general?.....:rolleyes:...that\'s a cop-out. What\'s the point of releasing them in the first place then? He could have easily done things differently regarding his policy without causing an uproar by releasing this report.


My take on this? He should\'ve never released these papers, I think he was trying to gain some brownie points by doing this, but doing so he\'s also have some nuts that want to prosecute folks from the former administration....i think releasing these papers possibly could put future american hostages at risk,...now i do understand that most terrorists don\'t give a s**t about int\'l laws that restrict torture, but now you have some of those in that camp in cuba that actually want to sue us because of it. It absolutely makes no sense. If the u.s. was sayin\' one thing and doing another in regards to torture, then i felt that this whole situation should\'ve been handled from behind closed doors. Now you have lawyers lookin\' for a big payday in representing these folks in cuba and you have the present admin. possibly thinking about going after folks, who at the time where only tryin\' to get info and protect us.


If you\'re going to release the papers..fine, but  he could\'ve put this thing to rest by saying that he\'s not going to pursue prosecuting folks from the last admin and display by his actions that he\'s going to be different(he\'s already doin\' things far different from bush already)....but he puts his hands up and states..."uhm nope i\'m leaving that up for somebody else to decide"...he needed to be firm at that moment..you\'re the president for crissakes, but he looked indecisive.


Lastly,..i hear there are alot of folks criticizing him over his behavior with the south american folks....now here i will disagree....while he did state that he wanted to listen to these countries, some of whom the former prez didn\'t give the time of day, he also stated that this isn\'t a one way street, and that if any reforms from these regimes aren\'t met, then the u.s. simply will not act. Even when that venezula prez made those comments and gave Obama a book, Obama kept his cool and acted professionally, he lent out his hand to these folks down there, it\'s up to them to respond.

Overall, i feel he\'s doin\' a great job given what\'s he\'s been handed, but i think he was trying to have his cake and eat it too by releasing these reports. There\'s more important issues to worry about than to go back and prosecute folks who back then were high off the 9/11 tragedy,..and honestly could you blame them?...EVERYBODY wanted the u.s. to do something when that event happened.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/04/23/rollins.obama.torture/index.html
« Last Edit: April 23, 2009, 04:53:55 AM by clips »
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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2009, 11:02:12 AM »
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Honestly, I am confused on what\'s going on here.  But I don\'t mind that the papers were disclosed, but I don\'t think anybody should be prosecuted - i am not even sure what the word mean until i look it up.  I think what happened in the past is the past, and whoever involved of the doing the tortures should be exonerated.  At least they have a reason to torture the bad guys because of the impact of 9/11.  Its not like they are torturing the innocent peoples.  They are torturing the bad guys and wanted information out of them to help protect the nation and get information on the hideout of other terrorists and their leader.
« Last Edit: April 23, 2009, 08:25:50 PM by Paul2 »

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2009, 01:58:12 PM »
If anyone is sought after due to this, it certainly should not be the ones that followed orders.

Although blindly following orders is another case within itself.

If  it is found that crimes were committed, so be it and all should go to jail.

Oh they saved us from a bombing in LA. Id rather see proof of that b/c by that logic, we haven\'t been attacked while Obama was in office, hail to the Messiah!!!!
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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2009, 06:33:32 PM »
Why do you keep posting a black Joe The Plumber?

You like being spoon fed personalities b/c your party has none?
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2009, 03:44:45 AM »
Your comment was that nobody does anything about it and just whines.

Then people do something about it (tea parties) and get mocked and called racist.

A black guy gives a speech, and you call him the black joe the plumber.

There\'s no satisfying you unless you hear what you want to hear.
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« Reply #6 on: April 24, 2009, 06:35:35 AM »
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Your comment was that nobody does anything about it and just whines.

Then people do something about it (tea parties) and get mocked and called racist.

A black guy gives a speech, and you call him the black joe the plumber.

There\'s no satisfying you unless you hear what you want to hear.




None of those politicians say what I want to hear...try again.

I honestly think the GOP is behind this guy like how they propped joe the plumber up. How often has that party used average people in their agenda? They d id start that until McCain claimed he could relate to the common voter. I think this is just more of that.

Instead of going to teaparties, these people should look for work or go to their jobs before they get fired...lol
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« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2009, 09:51:36 AM »
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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2009, 12:29:55 PM »
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Instead of going to teaparties, these people should look for work or go to their jobs before they get fired...lol


That\'s the problem luckee... these people ARE the workers.  They had to be pulled from their jobs because they feel so deeply about this issue, that\'s what the video was about.

These are the people paying into the system that others abuse.

I love how you libs like to hate on the rich.  Without the rich, we wouldn\'t have jobs.

I know that there have been a lot of bad decisions made in the paste couple months, but for every corrupt wealthy person, there are 100 honest wealthy people who worked hard to get where they are at.  Not everyone is a greedy evil person looking to screw you, most of them are in fact just like you and I, only more successful.

So while I will never be able to convert you to conservative thinking, I can at least enlighten you to the reality of the situation.
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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2009, 01:53:36 PM »
How did this thread get on the subject of anti-tax teaparties?  And who called the tea party boneheads racists?  Even if someone did, who cares?  One person saying that doesn\'t make it true, nor does it mean that every liberal believes that, nor does it require a panicky video rebuttal from the Ron Paul squad.
 
I think I might split this thread because I thought we were discussing "enhanced interrogation techniques."  That term is ridiculous, but it\'s so funny I love using it.  I like to use that on my coworkers.  "Could you please return my call?  I need to subject you to some enhanced interrogation techniques."
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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2009, 02:14:54 PM »
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That\'s the problem luckee... these people ARE the workers.  They had to be pulled from their jobs because they feel so deeply about this issue, that\'s what the video was about.



I love how you libs like to hate on the rich.  Without the rich, we wouldn\'t have jobs.



I am  done talking to you until you pull your head out of your ass...

I don\'t pull for one side or the other. I may be left of stoic, but I am not a liberal.
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2009, 02:44:39 PM »
I\'ve never seen one poster be so consistently wrong as Kennedy.
Who is this anamoly we call Jumpman? How is he able to do what he does and still survive after years of torment? It seems he feeds on the hate, growing with an intense passion to put unassuming members in their place.

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2009, 04:16:45 PM »
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I\'ve never seen one poster be so consistently wrong as Kennedy.



I have....he melted down.
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2009, 05:08:44 PM »
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I\'ve never seen one poster be so consistently wrong as Kennedy.


Prove it.
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Who is this anamoly we call Jumpman? How is he able to do what he does and still survive after years of torment? It seems he feeds on the hate, growing with an intense passion to put unassuming members in their place.

 

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