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Does PSX sales effect PS2 sales.
« on: December 19, 2000, 02:36:17 AM »

I have a friend that says PSX sales don\'t effect PS2 sales.
I think the psx sales DO effect the ps2 sales. That most people that have a psx will get the ps2 JUST because how well the psx did..

He says the Xbox will out sell ps2 because there American owned. I believe the ps2 will out sell the xbox.

He says that people don\'t care for BRAND names on console either..  I believe the BRANDNAME does effect console sales.
What do u guys think?
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« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2000, 03:12:37 AM »
Most people get the PS2 for the DVD player! :)

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« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2000, 05:45:34 AM »
Ask your friend if Terminator 1 affected Terminator 2 ticket sales.

Ask your friend why the PS2 is sold out and in such high demand... despite the high price tag.  Particularly when the Dreamcast - which is half the cost - is readily available and has almost 200 games.

Ask your friend why the N64 sold as well as it did, despite the moronic decision to go cartridge and the slow ass release of games.  I mean, after all, people could\'ve bought the PSX the first year.  Yet the N64 broke sales records with only, what, 3 launch titles?  SNES is why.

Ask your friend what in the hell he\'s smoking.  Does the PSX affect PS2 sales?  Um, DUH.  Look at the top selling games for PS2.  Guess what?  They are sequels to top selling PSX games.  What in the hell is he thinking?  Microsoft fans can be so damn stupid about this stuff.  Don\'t get pissed - Sony and Sega fans get stupid too.  I can understand bragging about power... but claiming that people will "forget" the PSX and make an "informed buying decision" because of polygonal power of the machine and the origin of the company?  What a crock of sh**.  Casual gamers don\'t know what a polygon is - they just recognize names of games.  This guy is insane.  PSX is the ONLY reason the PS2 is doing so well.  Without the PSX, Sony wouldn\'t have lured 350 developers (Microsoft is still struggling).  Without the PSX, Sony wouldn\'t have had so many launch titles.  Sony wouldn\'t have had so many preorders.  It\'s called Playstation 2 for a reason.

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« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2000, 05:49:38 AM »
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Ask your friend if Terminator 1 affected Terminator 2 ticket sales.

Ask your friend why the PS2 is sold out and in such high demand... despite the high price tag.  Particularly when the Dreamcast - which is half the cost - is readily available and has almost 200 games.

Ask your friend why the N64 sold as well as it did, despite the moronic decision to go cartridge and the slow ass release of games.  I mean, after all, people could\'ve bought the PSX the first year.  Yet the N64 broke sales records with only, what, 3 launch titles?  SNES is why.

Ask your friend what in the hell he\'s smoking.  Does the PSX affect PS2 sales?  Um, DUH.  Look at the top selling games for PS2.  Guess what?  They are sequels to top selling PSX games.  What in the hell is he thinking?  Microsoft fans can be so damn stupid about this stuff.  Don\'t get pissed - Sony and Sega fans get stupid too.  I can understand bragging about power... but claiming that people will "forget" the PSX and make an "informed buying decision" because of polygonal power of the machine and the origin of the company?  What a crock of sh**.  Casual gamers don\'t know what a polygon is - they just recognize names of games.  This guy is insane.  PSX is the ONLY reason the PS2 is doing so well.  Without the PSX, Sony wouldn\'t have lured 350 developers (Microsoft is still struggling).  Without the PSX, Sony wouldn\'t have had so many launch titles.  Sony wouldn\'t have had so many preorders.  It\'s called Playstation 2 for a reason.


Amen to this ****ing response, this is one of the best replies I have ever seen on this board.  You cannot argue with what this man has just said.
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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2000, 06:09:56 AM »
Thanks... for the record, I\'m not saying PS2 doesn\'t deserve it\'s sales.  It has the best launch selection I\'ve ever seen.  Saturn was my personal favorite, but I\'m a huge Daytona/Virtua Fighter/Panzer fan.  In the real world outside of me, the PS2\'s was the best.  Madden, Tekken, Ridge Racer, Kessen, Armored Core, Timesplitters, SSX, etc.  People enjoy spitting on it, but stack it up against any other launch in history, and I think it more than holds it\'s own.  Not the revolution that was promised, but most definitely a fine selection of titles from day one.  Particularly for a system that was extremely difficult to develop for.

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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2000, 06:11:42 AM »
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Thanks... for the record, I\'m not saying PS2 doesn\'t deserve it\'s sales.  It has the best launch selection I\'ve ever seen.  Saturn was my personal favorite, but I\'m a huge Daytona/Virtua Fighter/Panzer fan.  In the real world outside of me, the PS2\'s was the best.  Madden, Tekken, Ridge Racer, Kessen, Armored Core, Timesplitters, SSX, etc.  People enjoy spitting on it, but stack it up against any other launch in history, and I think it more than holds it\'s own.  Not the revolution that was promised, but most definitely a fine selection of titles from day one.  Particularly for a system that was extremely difficult to develop for.


But they have new developement kits out now.
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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2000, 10:57:07 AM »
can be... but i don´t believe it, a question, How many consoles has benn sale since its launch? (ps2, in all world)
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« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2000, 11:09:08 AM »
I think near 5 million. considering the trouble they had with the parts and shortages, PS2 is doing good thanx to the japanesse support i guess.

but within the next 3 months, they are going to have a total of 10 million shipped worldwide.
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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2000, 07:30:01 PM »
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I think near 5 million. considering the trouble they had with the parts and shortages, PS2 is doing good thanx to the japanesse support i guess.

but within the next 3 months, they are going to have a total of 10 million shipped worldwide.


That\'s alot
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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2000, 08:49:30 PM »
Of course it affects sell. There was only a small amount of the original PS at launch, because Sony didn\'t know if they could sell them all. Yet, with the PS2 they knew they could sell over 500,000 from day one. Now if it didn\'t have anything to do with the original PS, explain why they knew they could sell that many?

WHat about the people who loved the original PS? They\'ll want a PS2. Or people who hated the original PS? They probally won\'t want a PS2.

Its like a movie..Star Wars sequel\'s sell, because of the past Star Wars.

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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2000, 09:31:02 PM »
Again, I ain\'t typically too prone to stating things in a short-winded manner, but I think I can offer solid argument for [read: against] your friend\'s argument: "He says that people don\'t care for BRAND names on console either..."

[Note: This is NOT a console bash]
People don\'t care for BRAND names on their console?  Ask me if I felt good when I purchased my Sega Genesis...Actually, I was very satisfied.  I liked Sega.  When Sega promised me unbelievable gaming enhancements with a CD-based add-on, I (and my cash) stepped up to the plate...and was disappointed (ONLY exception being SNATCHER - great game...thanks Konami!).  When Sega said, "don\'t base our abilities on our past, purchase our 32X add-on and become overwhelmed with the graphics and gameplay increases you will see..."  And [other than DOOM...thanks Williams!] I can\'t think of a single 32X game that didn\'t deserve to be melted down for fishing sinkers.  When Sega said, "Oops, he he, sorry \'bout all that other stuff...try our Saturn" then forgot to mention that developers where basically burned out by Sega\'s mediocre console efforts...  You get the idea...  Okay, now Sega has Dreamcast.  And frankly, that is a GREAT system.  It has some great games.  But,...BUT... consider that with all of this Sega history stated, do you not for a moment think that the Sega BRAND name doesn\'t mean something to me?  Frankly, if I see Sega on something, I\'m going to have reservations...likely for the rest of my life.  Sorry, Sega, I didn\'t do this...you did.  Good luck rubbing the tarnish off of your BRAND name for me...

However, similarly, I\'ve owned countless Sony PRODUCTS.  Not just the PSX.  But VCRs, TVs, Walkman, Discman, Camcorder, Cordless 900mhz phone, DVD players, PDA,...PS2...and Sony stock, to name but a few things.  My life experience with the Sony BRAND is that this company knows electronics.  This company knows niche markets.  This company knows quality.  I\'ve never known Sony to compromise.  And I\'ve never been dissatisfied with Sony.  My experience with Sony is a personal one that I can appreciate may not be shared by others.  However, this experience makes the Sony BRAND very important for my personal buying decisions.

Under the circumstances, this person *does* care for BRAND names...

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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2000, 09:35:19 PM »
I do think that a part of it, DOES have to do with brand name...for instance if there is a 27" inch TV made by sony that cost 450, and another Toshiba 27" inch for 200, I am going to buy the Sony one, despite the price diff. But anyway we are talking about systems here. I think another part is the diff. games that are released with the specific system.

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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2000, 10:01:20 PM »
If it wasn\'t brand name why the hell did I buy a PS2? Oh yeah, it was brand name. I loved the first PS..Well, that and I buy every console that comes out.

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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2000, 11:01:05 PM »
Its about the games and advertising.  If I have two games one on each system and there is a verion of the game thats much much much better on another system thats the system I am going to buy and also about exclusive games, if I have a game that rocks and its not on another system along with the above then the console of choice is already chosen.

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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2000, 02:51:23 AM »
Ps2 doesn\'t need big advertizement, Playstation one is the ad. Success of PSX affects the PS2 sells. People know PS2 because of the PSX. They know what kind of games are coming to the new console. The name and reputation effects the market a lot.

Ask your friend why Coca-Cola sells more than the new Caco-Cola ( by a new company ), even if Caco-Cola tastes better? ( completely fictional but would be true )

Why companies do sequels?

Why, if names wouldn\'t sell, Hollywood wouldn\'t have so big stars.

Why do every Schwarzenegger -film sell even if with bad plot?

Names, Reputation etc.

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