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Offline BizioEE

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PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« on: August 07, 2023, 09:06:57 AM »
It is basicly "confirmed" that PS5 PRO, the Mid Gen Refresh for the base PS5 is in development since the beginning of 2022, and said to be released within Nov 2024.

 Now, let's talk about the rumored SPECS !

  The new beast should deliver at least 2X the power of the base Model, probably with a Custom AMD APU powered by 60 RDNA 3,5(plus Extra Sony Tech) CUs clocked at around 2.5/2.7 GHz Variable,  2X Hardware Ray Tracing Acceleration, 23.5 Teraflops !
  20 GB GDDR6X Unified RAM with 780 GB/s Memory Bandwidth,
  Storage : 1.65 TB PCIe Gen4 SSD, 5.5 GB/s.

CPU : 4nm/5nm, AMD ZEN 4, 8 Core 16 Threads, 4.2 GH/z Variable.


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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2023, 04:27:09 PM »
sounds so good.  got me hype.

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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2023, 04:26:50 AM »
sounds so good.  got me hype.

It will be a great piece of hardware, and I can't wait for it  ;)
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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2023, 07:14:02 AM »
Question is will games released only be able to play on the Pro. If so I will not be ok with that. I feel like these Pro models are just mid generation money grabs to get people who already bought the console to buy it again. The PS4 Pro made sense for the time given 4K was being adopted during that generation. This just seems like more of a money grab to me. And how many cross gen games will take advantage given MS doesn't have anything in the pipeline for a more advanced Series X at the moment? Don't mean to poo poo this announcement. Just my 2 cents lol.
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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2023, 08:12:31 PM »
i think newer games made for the ps5 pro will be 100% playable on the original ps5.  like how the ps4 pro and ps4 games are playable and 100% compatible with each other except that newer games made around the time ps4 pro debuted, it will have better graphic and/or framerate than the plain ps4.  that is also the case with xbox one and xbox one x.

and if the developers wanted too, they can make old ps4 games released before ps4 pro debuted, might have better loading times, framerate, and/or resolution with a firmware update on the older games play on ps4 pro.

speaking of which, most games made during or after ps4 pro debuted, usually have checkered board resolution for 4k.  which means its not native 4k resolution but maybe 3k upscaled to 4k.  that means ps4 pro still isn't powerful enough to runs in native 4k resolution on many games.  maybe a few rare games might run at native 4k but even that means graphic has to be compromised to run its in 4k.

most games made for the ps4 and ps4 pro usually have the options of checkered board 4k or better frame-rate but runs in 1080p only on the ps4 pro console while the plain vanilla ps4 has neither i think.

i think the upcoming ps5 pro might gives us the option of smooth 4k in 60 fps with ray tracing compares to 4k in 60 fps with no ray tracing or 4k in 30 fps with ray tracing on the plain vanilla ps5 on many games.

like the spiderman game made on the ps5 about 2 years ago if i remember correctly, the ps5 isn't powerful enough to runs it at 60 fps in 4k for ray tracing, so it gives us the option of 60 fps but no ray tracing or 30 fps but with ray tracing.

i think the ps5 pro might be powerful enough to finally runs many games in 4k in smooth 60 fps with ray tracing this time around so there won't be a compromise.

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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2023, 07:31:10 AM »
Question is will games released only be able to play on the Pro. If so I will not be ok with that. I feel like these Pro models are just mid generation money grabs to get people who already bought the console to buy it again. The PS4 Pro made sense for the time given 4K was being adopted during that generation. This just seems like more of a money grab to me. And how many cross gen games will take advantage given MS doesn't have anything in the pipeline for a more advanced Series X at the moment? Don't mean to poo poo this announcement. Just my 2 cents lol.

PS5 PRO will be able to play base PS5 games in fidelity mode at 60 fps, instead of 30 fps, with more advanced Ray-Tracing and better effects; it's up to you. Some gamers are fine with 30 fps, other gamers can't play anymore at 30 fps, and they want 60 fps standard for any game.
 Furthermore, the most demanding games, starting from 2024, will be a real challenge for the base models, even at 30 fps, so, more power is always welcome.  If you ask me, I'm very happy the PS5 PRO is coming, 'cause I will be able to play the best games in fidelity, ray tracing and 60 fps. I don't have a PS5 yet, I only have a XSX, and sure PS5 PRO is a day one for me.
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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2023, 07:45:59 AM »
i think newer games made for the ps5 pro will be 100% playable on the original ps5.  like how the ps4 pro and ps4 games are playable and 100% compatible with each other except that newer games made around the time ps4 pro debuted, it will have better graphic and/or framerate than the plain ps4.  that is also the case with xbox one and xbox one x.

and if the developers wanted too, they can make old ps4 games released before ps4 pro debuted, might have better loading times, framerate, and/or resolution with a firmware update on the older games play on ps4 pro.

speaking of which, most games made during or after ps4 pro debuted, usually have checkered board resolution for 4k.  which means its not native 4k resolution but maybe 3k upscaled to 4k.  that means ps4 pro still isn't powerful enough to runs in native 4k resolution on many games.  maybe a few rare games might run at native 4k but even that means graphic has to be compromised to run its in 4k.

most games made for the ps4 and ps4 pro usually have the options of checkered board 4k or better frame-rate but runs in 1080p only on the ps4 pro console while the plain vanilla ps4 has neither i think.

i think the upcoming ps5 pro might gives us the option of smooth 4k in 60 fps with ray tracing compares to 4k in 60 fps with no ray tracing or 4k in 30 fps with ray tracing on the plain vanilla ps5 on many games.

like the spiderman game made on the ps5 about 2 years ago if i remember correctly, the ps5 isn't powerful enough to runs it at 60 fps in 4k for ray tracing, so it gives us the option of 60 fps but no ray tracing or 30 fps but with ray tracing.

i think the ps5 pro might be powerful enough to finally runs many games in 4k in smooth 60 fps with ray tracing this time around so there won't be a compromise.

Great post Paul !!!

 All games will run on both PS5 and PS5 PRO, but as you said, you will get better graphics and performance on the PRO Model; so, basicly, Sony is giving us two options, a standard one, and a Premium one.
  Spiderman 2 will be 4k, light   ray tracing and 30 fps on PS5, while
        it might easy be 4K, better ray tracing and 60 fps on PS5 PRO.
Now, some gamers don't care that much about these differences, but other gamers can see these improvements like a game changer, mostly the 60 fps = a much smoother gameplay experience. 

 This Generation will be very long, and I don't see a PS6 coming before 2028, so better we have a Mid Gen refresh able to run better the upcoming and more demanding games.
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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2023, 07:11:10 PM »
well said BizioEE.  i forgot about light ray tracing on spiderman made about 2 years ago on ps5.  you are probably right that is basic ray tracing but at 30 fps for spiderman runs on base ps5.  hopefully ps5 pro is powerful enough to runs many games in advanced ray tracing in 4k in 60 fps instead of light ray tracing in 4k @ 30 fps that the base ps5 runs at.
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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2023, 01:36:14 AM »
well said BizioEE.  i forgot about light ray tracing on spiderman made about 2 years ago on ps5.  you are probably right that is basic ray tracing but at 30 fps for spiderman runs on base ps5.  hopefully ps5 pro is powerful enough to runs many games in advanced ray tracing in 4k in 60 fps instead of light ray tracing in 4k @ 30 fps that the base ps5 runs at.

Exactly. From what I'm reading and all the speculations and leaks, it appears Sony is working hard to give gamers
these improvements : 2X the Ray Tracing capabilities, while offering 60 fps instead of 30 fps, and better effects, thanks to the new RDNA "3.5" architecture, which is an enhanced RDNA3 architecture plus Sony proprietary tech and some features coming from the future RDA4.  Now, if you add to the equation that PS5 PRO will most probably have 60 CUs running at 2.5/2.7 GHz variable under this new very custom architecture, we come to the "point" the Hardware will be a BEAST ;)

 Can't wait !
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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2023, 06:00:12 AM »
sounds good.  honestly, i don't know what CU means when you say 60 CUs?  but it does sounds good though.  hope you can shed some lights to what CU is.

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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2023, 02:34:21 AM »
sounds good.  honestly, i don't know what CU means when you say 60 CUs?  but it does sounds good though.  hope you can shed some lights to what CU is.

The meaning of a compute unit(CU) depends on who manufactured a particular GPU, but as we know the top two GPU vendors are NVIDIA and AMD: A compute unit is a stream multiprocessor in a NVidia GPU or a SIMD engine in an AMD GPU. Each compute unit has several processing elements (ALU/stream processor). For example, A compute unit of a HD 5000 series GPU has 80 processing elements (16 processing cores with 5 ALUs per processing core).

A compute unit (CU) on a GPU is a processing unit that performs computations on data in parallel. GPUs have many compute units, and they are the basic building blocks of the GPU's architecture.

Compute units typically consist of multiple processing elements (PEs), which can perform a variety of arithmetic and logical operations on data. These PEs are designed to work together in parallel, allowing the compute unit to perform many computations simultaneously.

Compute units are important for parallel processing tasks, such as those found in graphics rendering and scientific computing. By dividing the workload among multiple compute units, the GPU can perform many computations in parallel, which can result in significant speedups compared to serial processing on a CPU.

The number of compute units on a GPU can vary depending on the specific GPU model, and it is an important factor in determining the GPU's overall processing power. More compute units generally mean higher performance, although other factors such as clock speed, memory bandwidth, and memory capacity can also play a role in determining overall performance.

In summary, a compute unit on a GPU is a processing unit that performs computations on data in parallel, consisting of multiple processing elements working together to achieve high levels of parallelism and performance.


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Re: PS5 PRO Hype Thread
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2023, 03:43:44 PM »
thanks for the enlightening.  i still don't get it 100% but it sure sounds very good.

 

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