PS2:the ONLY console with free built-in dvd playback:)

As I said before, the inclusion of the hard drive inside the XBox will bring it to another level.

And as I previously said.The built in DVD feature and built in modem will bring DC and PS2 to another level.Maybe DC, Glitch-Box,and PS2 are all at the same level if we think about it hard enough...

Originally posted by Jumpman

Can you say Konami hasent officially confirmed MGSX for X-Box?
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http://www.dailyradar.com/news/game_news_4971.html

I don\'t know if you consider it official or not, but it was announced in some capacity. I don\'t think a hdd is a big deal either.....then again, according to Chrono, I\'m just trying to hide my bias...

I\'m going to put my two cents in.  

First of all, since when did posting your opiniion get you flamed on this board (not that I have been on this board long, but..)  Just because someone does not think the PS2 is that great of a gaming system does not mean that everyone must enlighten him otherwise.  It\'s his right to think whatever the hell he wishes.  Secondly I think when it all boils down to it, the DVD feature isnt going to mean much.  You can go out and purchase a DVD player for $99.99 these days at your local Best Buy.  So if the X-box is going to be cheaper because of that.. great more reason for me to get my hands on one... and set it next to my other systems.   I certainly did not buy a PS2 because of the DVD feature.  BTW EThugg... why are you getting so upset that some of the people on this board do not like you... who cares.  Hopefully you didnt loose any sleep over it.  You must just like to fight w/ people, huh....

Originally posted by AVG25
Jumpman, testy aren\'t you!  Ok, so you say that putting in a HD is a stupid move on Microsoft\'s behalf.  Tell that to the developers.  Seems like there\'s gonna be many developers wanting to take advantage of the HD....can you say MGSX.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!

How DARE you bring my beloved Metal Gear into this!

D*mn you!

1st rule you need to learn on this forum: Don\'t mess with Metal Gear when SS88 is around... and I\'m always around!

Silverskies- Yes, I like ruffling a few feathers now and again. But I\'m a pitbull in an argument or debate. I don\'t give up til it\'s over. And no, I would never lose sleep over ppl I don\'t even know in real life.

Jumpman, why are you jumping down my throat (no pun intended).  The reason why I bring up MGSX is b/c konami has mentioned that this will be MGS2 with extra features.  Konami has said that they are not sure what the extras might be but they do intend on using XBox\'s Hard Drive (to exploit those extras).  Look, I\'m not trying to cause any trouble.  I\'m here for the same reasons as anyone else, I\'m interested in video games.  I have a DC right now and I\'m trying to decided whether PS2 or XBox will be the better choice.  Sony and Microsoft are huge companies and IMO both will probably have the same amount of developer support.  However, you can\'t deny the potential of what a HD can do for a system (as Nu Gundam has shown citing many quotes from developers).

EThugg:
I think people label you as a fanboy because you seem to diss PS2 at every chance. Fair or not? You be the judge.

Everybody else:
Why are you so angry at the Xbox? If it\'s a great system, then I\'m there. I have a PS2 and I love it. But that doesn\'t make me blind - if another good console gives me games and features I can\'t get elsewhere, then I\'ll get it for sure. There\'s no law saying it\'s illegal to own both a PS2 and Xbox.  

Originally posted by Samwise
EThugg:
I think people label you as a fanboy because you seem to diss PS2 at every chance. Fair or not? You be the judge.

Everybody else:
Why are you so angry at the Xbox? If it\'s a great system, then I\'m there. I have a PS2 and I love it. But that doesn\'t make me blind - if another good console gives me games and features I can\'t get elsewhere, then I\'ll get it for sure. There\'s no law saying it\'s illegal to own both a PS2 and Xbox.  

Right on Samewise!

Originally posted by Samwise
EThugg:
I think people label you as a fanboy because you seem to diss PS2 at every chance. Fair or not? You be the judge.

I say, \'not\'. I\'ve defended PS2 plenty of times. If I felt like dissing PS2 at \'every chance\', I would have a post count like SyxxKorn. I hold back on many attacks on Sony \'cause I actually *like* Sony. I\'d hate to hear everyones replys to me actually attacking Sony. I guess some of you can\'t take some warranted critisizm... I guess everyone who hates a system spends over $1000 on the system, games, etc.


[Edited by EThugg on 12-23-2000 at 03:56 PM]

I\'m not saying you hate Sony, just pointing out what some people might think - even if they\'re wrong.

Glad to hear it....well, at least your opinion about me.

I don\'t care what anyone says, I have 2 DVD players allready and Sony is trying to screw me into buying another one when I don\'t want it.

that\'s a cheap shot actually,when you think about it,all the consoles will have features everyone will not want on them,GC\'s propriety disc,DC\'s modem,XB\'s hard-drive...they may be unnecessary to others like the dvd function in PS2 is to some here. there are alot of good points on all sides of the topic here,but obviously this is a PS2 forum so you will see more here who agree with PS2\'s functions than the other consoles,so don\'t take a crap in your pants if that is the majority\'s liking on the subject...

y\'all make me sick....  

I mean you are saying xbox is dead because it won\'t have built in consumer DVD support, thats really stupid.

If you look at the PS2 it has half assed DVD support, it doesn\'t have a remote and you have to use the controllers (which have wires and short wires too) to navigate complex DVD menus.  Anyone that uses the PS2 that way is a moron....  Thats why people buy the PS2 DVD remote so they can actually make the feature usefull.

The Xbox you buy the DVD remote with the DVD feature which is much better because I am sure the quality as far as software wise blows the PS2 away and you don\'t have to use the stupid controller menus.

DVD on the PS2 is far more of a hassle and a novelty than a usefull thing until you add in the DVD remote.

The Xbox can play MPEG movies as it has the hardware built in for MPEG-2 support, you are just buying the software and a DVD Remote, which makes it as good as a REAL DVD player.

If you want the feature you pay an extra 25 dollars and Microsoft can advertise the feature and you can also purchase it as a package deal I am sure, thats what is so stupid about saying Xbox is dead, more like the people saying that are brain dead.

There are far more advantages than problems doing it seperately and it makes a lot of sense.  I am sure more games will sell on the xbox instead of movies, but who in the hell wants a half assed DVD player.  MY DVD player is a 5 disc changer, one disks are going out of style now days.

The I.Q. in this forum just keeps getting lower and lower, I guess thats what happens when video games go mainstream.  Its like Sony is the new AOL.

[Bobs_Hardware]

If you look at the PS2 it has half assed DVD support, it doesn\'t have a remote and you have to use the controllers (which have wires and short wires too) to navigate complex DVD menus. Anyone that uses the PS2 that way is a moron.... Thats why people buy the PS2 DVD remote so they can actually make the feature usefull.

thanks for calling me a moron

i think what sony have done is really good, DVD players have not taken off in Australia yet, and neither has cable modems, Sony are going to make both of those widespread much faster than natural evolution.  Calling someone who doesnt a have a DVD player (like everyone he knows) and using a controller to controll it makes you (if anyone) the moron.

i guess thats what happens when video games go mainstream

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  videogames are mainstream now?  damn, i should move out of this cave sometime soon!  i moved in here after the atari 2600, and havent seen daylight since!  thanks for clearing this up!

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