final fantasy sucks

Originally posted by Falgarok
Well, that\'s your opinion Cax88 and i respect it, but i think that Final Fantasy is one of the best series, if not the best.
First of all, i\'m gona talk about FF VII/ VIII/ IX cos your complaints are refered to those ones:

Square had 2 main reasons to choose prerendered backgrounds instead of realtime 3D environments. The massive detailed prerendered backgrounds add a magic ambient to the game that\'s impossible to reproduce with the limited hardware of the original PSX. And secondly, it gives you the oportunity to place emotional camera angles to the scenes.
Do you remember the spiral staircase in the Shinra\'s mansion of Niebelheim?. It representes the fall into the madness of Sephiroth. Everytime you go downstairs it\'s like entering into a new world( the mind of Sephiroth), that it\'s also related with Cloud\'s past.
That scenary is obviously related with the ultimate scenary of the game. Again, a spiral that goes down into the earth, and again Square wanted to transmit the feeling of entering into a new world( a world of chaos and madness). And you could find hundreds of little details like these in all the series .  

i agree with U
however there is one thing that does not make sense, u say with prerendered backgrounds u can place emotional camera angles to the scene, but if is the other way around, cause if you have pre rendered backgrounds, you can only view the scene from one angle, this might be a good angle, but still, you can\'t choose, if you\'d use polygonal realtie backgrounds you could place the camera at the very same angle and get the same emotional value, but you can also choose to change the view to another angle, so with realtime backgrunds you can do the same and more!!!

Who can hate Final Fantasy??? Oh my god..!

How could you hate FF cax? the FF games are awsome!

Um... I don\'t fancy Final Fantasy much, either.

Nooo! Don\'t slaughter me. I just think the game is boring (when I say \'the game\' I\'m referring to my only copy of a FF game - FF7). I realize lots of people think FF7 is one of the best (RPG) games ever, but I cannot see why. The graphics seem fine, so that\'s not the problem - I just think the gameplay is BORING and SLOW. Perhaps I should play it some more one day - perhaps I\'ll then change my opinions on the game. But right now I still stand by my statements.

If FFX was to have the 3D backgrounds would they look as nice as the prerendered ones?  Even better?

I like the Final Fantasy Series very much I have 7,8,9,anothology,and tactics.  BUT 7,8,9 stories are screwed in the ass.  No offense to anyone but a sorceror trying to merge 2 worlds...ummm no.  and Evil power cooperation trying to rule the world through fear.  Jesus christ I mean Shinra even went to war I mean what the crap.  hehe and Zidane\'s people are vessels and...man this is twisted...but overall I like to the bad guy\'s ass with my Knights of the round,or my Lion Heart limit, errr....or my absolute 9 or whatever it\'s called(FF9 limits sucks except for Zidane)...they all havr their drawbacks Tactics needs more Useful job classes.  along with a little longer story.  Final Fantasy 6(also 3 on Super nintendo) is my personal Favorite and I see nothing wrong with it except the graphics and maybe the story.  and they all need a BETTER freaking ending even 6 no more esper IT\'S NOT FAIR poor espers

Ack, be careful with the FFIV spoilers. You should have warned me about it.

On topic, FF is my fav. series of all time, I don\'t know how you can think it sucks.

well, i think they should have kept the futuristic touch to ff, like in ff VIII in esthar, now ffIX is kinda like "what if the past has taken the second road", ya know with the old-fashioned design on airships and stuff.

but FF RULEZ especially 10 because of the rendered backgrounds that look better than any previous ps1 versions. Also, did you hear that ffXI on xbox will be playable online with the ps2 version? cool, huh!

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Originally posted by Samwise
Um... I don\'t fancy Final Fantasy much, either.

Nooo! Don\'t slaughter me. I just think the game is boring (when I say \'the game\' I\'m referring to my only copy of a FF game - FF7). I realize lots of people think FF7 is one of the best (RPG) games ever, but I cannot see why. The graphics seem fine, so that\'s not the problem - I just think the gameplay is BORING and SLOW. Perhaps I should play it some more one day - perhaps I\'ll then change my opinions on the game. But right now I still stand by my statements.

I\'m with you all the way on that Sam. I bought 7 and 8 the day they came out. And I have yet to finish either one of them. They just bore me. Its not to say they are a bad game series. Just don\'t interest me.

Not everyone can like FF. Just like not everyone can adore the CastleVania series as much as I do.

Its a simple matter of personal taste and opinion.

I agree with the first guy. Every FF i have ever played, i am currently using for frisbees! And by the way, you cant talk about a BEST EVER series without mentioning        "The Legend of Zelda" series. I think Nintendo has had Squaresoft beat since day one. Long live Zelda!

P.S
You guys should stop waisting time with RPGs. :rolleyes: try a real time game! They\'re where its at!

Originally posted by politiepet
i agree with U
however there is one thing that does not make sense, u say with prerendered backgrounds u can place emotional camera angles to the scene, but if is the other way around, cause if you have pre rendered backgrounds, you can only view the scene from one angle, this might be a good angle, but still, you can\'t choose, if you\'d use polygonal realtie backgrounds you could place the camera at the very same angle and get the same emotional value, but you can also choose to change the view to another angle, so with realtime backgrunds you can do the same and more!!!

It makes sense if you read this part:

Originally posted by Falgarok
First of all, i\'m gona talk about FF VII/ VIII/ IX cos your complaints are refered to those ones:

Yes, in the original PSX you could use emotional angles, but you still have lack of details, deformed pixelated textures, trembling polys, etc. That spoils the effect. And you\'ve said it, even with a real-time camera system, if you want to transmit the artist intention you must use a static camera angle( or cut-scenes).

Originally posted by zip77
well, i think they should have kept the futuristic touch to ff, like in ff VIII in esthar, now ffIX is kinda like "what if the past has taken the second road", ya know with the old-fashioned design on airships and stuff.

I think, that the only thing that Square should maintain in the series is the idea of a definitive story about the life and the death. If it has a pseudo-futuristic or a pseudo-medieval look( both are fantasy worlds), it doesn\'t matter cos that\'s not the essence of the series.

I used to think Final Fantasy sucked ass. But now that i have seen the light i will be getting the 2 PS2 versions of the games when they come out.

Originally posted by DaRkGaMeR
I used to think Final Fantasy sucked ass. But now that i have seen the light i will be getting the 2 PS2 versions of the games when they come out.

Fine, just don\'t skip the previous ones. You\'ll love them .

*sigh*... only if i could erase my mind and play them again like the first time... you\'re a lucky person DaRkGaMeR.

[Edited by Falgarok on 12-31-2000 at 11:14 PM]

I love Final Fantasies...

Is everything about graphics?

No. Some really good points \'bout FF:

-Good Storyline ( every time )

-Large in size ( should I say HUMONGUOUS? )

-Good Graphics ( FF8 for example; and FF7 is kinda good too )

and so many more...

The graphics are the least. The most important things in a game I look forward to are these ( in this order ):

-Gameplay

-Storyline

-Music

-Atmosphere

-Sounds

-Graphics

and so forth ( I\'m not sure if I missed something here )