What makes GT3 better than other racers?

??? Im not a big racer genre game fanboy, but what is all the hype about GT3? Doesnt look that great to me. Fill me in.

well, other then the fact

1.) it has the best graphics for a racer
2.) most true to life physics
3.) real life cars that look real
4.) a ton of gameplay
5.) Great Gameplay!
6.) ILINK compatiblity

nothing special

Have you not seen the movies and the screens, the game looks phenomenal,

but the true beauty of Gran Turismo is its unbelieveable simulation of real time physics and unique feel for each car. All customisably upgradeable and tuneable by you.

They call Gran Turismo "The real Driving Simulator" and they are not lying, the added reason for excitemnt is not only the huge graphic upgrade, but the sheer possibilities of assimiliating real driving feel, and techiques  through the power of the PS2.

There is nothig really like GT. Sure there are great racers, but no one does is like GT.

dont get me wrong.....im not bashing the game, im just expressing my opinion. What makes the gameplay soooo good? And where can i get the demo of GT3 ive heard about?

What makes GT3 the best racer? Hype. Graphics. Name.

Think I\'m wrong? It is the best racer because of it\'s graphics, how much they will put into advertising and hyping and it\'s name.

Real physics doesn\'t matter. Why would that matter to anyone besides the hardcore nerds? It doesn\'t. When I am driving down the road in my suped up \'85 Supra, do you think I care what the physics are? No.

It isn\'t the best racer. This is of course my opinion. But after you have bought the fastest cars all theway to some of the slowest cars and tuned them up, the fun never starts. To tell you the truth, I own GT, And I have never played the non simulation part. Ever. Why would I, when it is so much more fun passing tests and building up my car? Then, I got the last liscense did some 1 hour race, and i havent played it since. What\'s the point? woohoo, I got a Mitsu Twin Turbo that goes 256 mph, I have gotten to the point where I can go no faster in time trilas and speed tests, why bother playing anymore?

So I went back to Driver. A different class of game mind you, but still driving. Always finding new shortcuts, getting faster escape times in survival mode, etc. Gran Turismo is the funnest, no doubt, for about 1 month, if that. All I gotta say is, rent before you buy, you might play it out before you return the game.

Oh, and graphics will only wow you the first time, look for substance in gameplay, not physics, graphics, hype, etc.

Eric Jacob

I\'ll tell you after I get a chance to play it... and that\'s what everyone else should have said too.

I prefer Ridge Racer and other arcade racing games. If I want perfect physics, I\'ll drive a real car.

Altered Beast

You are wrong. It is the real time physics that makes the game

IT IS NOT HYPE AND IT IS NOT GRAPHICS. If it was graphics then the PSX versions wouldn\'t have done so well.


Maybe Joe gamer doesn\'t realize what physics calculations are, but I guarentee you he/she knows that each car in GT feels different, sounds different and looks different. He/She knows that a front wheel drive corners heluva lot tighter than rear wheel, and the gear ratio on one model is different then the other etc...


Obviously a racing simulator is not for you by some of your comments and thats fine, but I think GT is sheer bliss. For what it is  striving to be The Real Driving Simulator

Heck some people don\'t like SSX cause its not a simulator.

But I love this next statement of yours

Oh, and graphics will only wow you the first time, look for substance in gameplay, not physics, graphics, hype, etc.

I hate to ****ing break it to you but physics is the substance of the gameplay, it the simulation of real life, real cars, like never before. GT1 and GT2 did an awesome job of bringing this to the 32bit PSX, and there are easily a large amount of GT nuts who are drooling for the 128 bit version of this classic.

The graphics immerse you into the race, and are equally as important as the rest of your elements. I find it hard to believe after my 1st go around I will be bored with all that eye candy especially with 14 more tracks to go.

If you love the thought of Real Cars simulated in real world elements with eye candy galore than GT is your bag.

I wouldn\'t for a millisecond, just like 3-5 million other GT / PS2 fans miss out on GT cause my experience says the game is one of the best ever.  I would easily buy a PS2 just for GT, but hey thats my opinion. The bonus is the other 20 or so must have titles coming out this year for the PS2

and there\'s no reason why you can\'t go play Driver, Need for Speed, RRV as well Altered Beast just because someone loves GT doesn\'t mean that person doesn\'t experience other games.

Originally posted by EThugg
I prefer Ridge Racer and other arcade racing games. If I want perfect physics, I\'ll drive a real car.

And you can afford all those cars in GT, tune them, upgrade them etc...

I know GT is not for everyone, and thats cool but your comment is a tad naive to what GT is acheiving. Allowing for people to simulate all those cars they probably will never ever get a chance to try in their real lives.

I mean you don\'t have to like a simulator, but you cannot deny what GT acheives,

I didnt say it wasnt fun, I am saying the fun runs out quickly. I dint like SegaGT, which is Sega\'s answer to GT. Why? they didn\'t do it right,it had all the physics of GT1 and GT2 (which believe it or not, were jaw dropping for the PSX.) but The formula wasn\'t right. They are good at what they do, but the scale they are puttng themselves on is to great for one game. Joe Gamer may realize that car B handles betterinthe dirt than car B, so he gets a front wheel car, builds it up, etc. and thenwhat else is their to do? You only have 15 tracks to work with. Their should be a game with tne ups, cars, etc. but have many tracks.

Eric Jacob

I agree with Altered that GT3 is not all that great imo.  After GT1, nothing about the series got me overly impressed.  Sure, I got licenses, bought cars, competed on the circuits and tried out the rally mode, but there was no grand prize to strive for.  No ending to achieve, no goals to achieve.  Sure, I could become the best racer and drive the best car, but to me, that\'s not very appealing.  The only time I thought GT3 got it\'s serious worth was driving a car I would never own at 160MPH through an S-curve while jamming to my favorite tunes, but even that after driving all the tracks and hearing all the songs, lost it\'s luster.  I\'ll give GT3 a try on my rental list, but beyond that, I think Polyphony is only going to see profits from my overdue rental charges.

Personally, my cup of tea was moreso of a racer I could jump into and drive with all the music and track elements listed above and Ridge Racer V and Crazy Taxi offers all that and then some.  I may not be able to tweak a car to all my specific needs, but something like that just isn\'t my idea of fun.  A lot of you may disagree, but that\'s the beauty of opinions I may like GT3 enough to buy it after renting it, but as is now, it\'ll never make it on my shelf next to Twisted Metal Black ZOE and MGS2.

Joe Gamer may realize that car B handles betterinthe dirt than car B, so he gets a front wheel car, builds it up, etc. and thenwhat else is their to do?

True, but that can be said about a lot of games.  Take Street Fighter for example, I can\'t put any new version down (except for the EX versions) until I have truly mastered half of the characters in it.  My friends will easily tell you I\'m a Street Fighter freak and play it endlessly for hours because it is just so damn fun, but after learning all the moves and combos, what\'s left to do?  For me, it\'s self improvement, but for others it\'s boring.  You can be the judge there.

But with fighters it is different. I am a SF freak. Capcom vs. SNK has rekindled that old spirit for me and I go to the arcade every weekend to pimp my skills in informal tournaments we have their, most days, I only spend a dollar and last an hour. That is the fun part though, tuning your skills to be the best and blasting everyone that goes against you.

BTW! I have found that racing game, Metropolis Street Racer, 40 cars, 250 tracks, realism (most realistic surrondings ever), etc. this may be the simulation racer that can hold my attention for more than 3 to 4 weeks.

Eric Jacob


PS: my team is Ken and Terry Bogard, beat me, I dare you to try.

I bet I can do it with Evil Ryu alone.  Maybe even my Kyo\\Ryu team or my Terry\\ken team or my Yuri\\Blanka\\Ryu team or even my Geese\\Yuri team.  Heh, it\'s my fix for the past 2 months or so.  The only advantage you\'ll have is one of two things, 1.  I dont have any arcades to go to around here to play at, and 2, I can\'t use a DC controller for my life so I have to use my PSX\\standard non DS controller type combo.  Damn all those hours of Alpha 1, 2, and 3 and all those SF3 hours just spoiled me on the PSX controller and its broken D-Pad.  Oh well, the greatest advantage is the ability to adapt quickly no matter what and that\'s what I strive for.  God knows the comp offers little to no challengs :rolleyes:

hehehe, I hated the DC pad first time I booted up SF Zero 3. It got better though, much better. I wish I could take it to the arcade with me and play against people on it, but alas that would be cheating.

Evil Ryu is mighty, but I would chop through him with my Ken. Ken is so fast and I do a shinryuken, punch, dragon punch, that will knock your socks off! Trust me, when CvsSNK2 is out and it is online, we will play, and I will use my Evil Ken and my Terry against you (it will be a 6 point system ) I would enjoy Ryu, but he is too slow, I work on speed alone, and Ryu gets beaten in the air everytime against Ken or ChunLi or Cammy.

another good team of mine I haev been fiddling with - Guile and E. Honda.

Honda has always been a character I have used, but now I am nuts practicing with him. I just wish he could jump higher

Eic Jacob

Evil Ryu is mighty, but I would chop through him with my Ken. Ken is so fast and I do a shinryuken, punch, dragon punch, that will knock your socks off! Trust me, when CvsSNK2 is out and it is online, we will play, and I will use my Evil Ken and my Terry against you (it will be a 6 point system ) I would enjoy Ryu, but he is too slow, I work on speed alone, and Ryu gets beaten in the air everytime against Ken or ChunLi or Cammy.

Sorry, but ken is an offensive player and he dies far too often against Ryu, especially when he is played the way he was always meant, defensively.  Attack me, I dare you and I\'ll screw you in the corner with my "cheap" overhead/trip toss up which will eat away at a good 50% of your life while you just guess how to block my next attack.  The only good part about ken is his speed when combined with the SNK groove to do supers when he is nearly dead, otherwise, he\'s pretty useless unless he can actually get in to attack.  Remember, the patient tortoise always defeats the speedy hare.  Just remember that in the future  Besides, 3 moves that do plenty of damage are useless unless you can actually pull them off.  Have fun blocking my 70% damage to tier 2 characters raging demon, and that\'s something I never miss.