I wanna get something straight...

I\'ve never thought you were a specific fanboy  OneBillyGunn...

I think DC\'s death was the past mistakes; the reliability of Sega was lowered down. The greatest reason for PS2\'s success is the PS. It\'s a great advertize in its self, and ppl think ( usually; this is the casual-gamer ) that PS2 HAS to be good because PS sold so much. They\'re of course mainly right on this subject, but their decision to buy PS2 usually bases on un-researched opinions, than really deep thought researches between all the next-gen consoles...

Originally posted by EThugg
Sorry Emperor, but the market and compeditors are to blame at least as much.

That\'s just another factor you have to take into consideration when operating a business.  Just like designing, marketing, and all the way down to which janitors to hire.  Shifting the blame to someone else is just an inability to accept responsibility.

I can shift the blame to something when it belonged there already. Sega did everything IMO with DC short of announcing PD Saga 2 and Nights 2. I saw plenty of ads. They have plenty of great games. The company oozes innovation. What else could they do with DC???

Even if Sega did everything they could to the best of their ability that doesn\'t mean squat.  Life is not fair and the race goes to the fastest.  

I guess you guys sort of said what I wanted to say in a nutshell...

Sega DC died because the Sony PS2 competed with it...

Welcome to Earth!

Was Sony supposed to work around Sega or something...

::shaking my head::

some people!

You guys dont see the irony in MS being a market leader for the same reasons and you guys dissing them, but Sony\'s doing what they\'re supposed to... hypocrites...

Originally posted by EThugg
You guys dont see the irony in MS being a market leader for the same reasons and you guys dissing them, but Sony\'s doing what they\'re supposed to... hypocrites...

What thread is this moron reading?

Moron? I was commenting on the very comment right above my own. Learn how to read ****er.

Originally posted by EThugg
Moron? I was commenting on the very comment right above my own. Learn how to read ****er.

You should use the quote system with the quote button to help clear up confusions about who your replying to

It helps

Doesn\'t matter if he uses the quote or not, his posts make no sense.  He would rather believe that anyone but Sega is to blame for their own actions.

Emperor-I never said that Sega had no fault at all. I said Sony and mainstream gamers (like your ass) were the biggest reason. And the quality of Sega\'s games outweigh their faults, unlike Sony, who IMO has done nothing good enough to counteract the death of DC. My post\'s make perfect sense, just cause you disagree doesn\'t mean I make no sense.

ddaryl-I usually do that, or like here, and put the persons name in front. Emperor knew what I was responding to, he just being a **** l8ly.

hate to throw a wrench into this topic,but ummm,console gaming is only but mainstream! pc gaming is more hardcore than consoles gaming. Pong started console gaming and it just evolved from there...but i don\'t believe in the theory that any one console is hardcore over the other,all are mainstream,it is just different levels and genres of gaming,nothing more

If that\'s they way you feel, I won\'t be able to change your mind, but I strongly disagree. Saturn was definitly for the hatdcore.

explain to me how consoles are hardcore and not mainstream? explain to me how Saturn is more hardcore than PSX?

Well, ok, the system itself isn\'t hardcore, but It was a system that hardcore gamers loved. It\'s user base was largly (then and now) hardcore gamers. That\'s the only way I can explain it. A systems place in the market, and label are defined by their user base. Even PSM admited DC and Sega owned the hardcore market... I don\'t count PC in these arguments, not because I dont think its a legit platform, but because I think its such a different gaming experience, that it shouldnt be compared to consoles (and vice versa). I don\'t doubt real PC gamers are hardcore...