ATTN ALL!!! ESPECIALLY THE FANBOYS. SORRY FOR THE CAPS.

Do you honestly think that X-box is just a pc in a smaller box?  Do you think you will be able to use word 2000 or excel on the X-box?  

It is going to be a dedicated game machine.  Did you ever read the article were the X-box team told Bill that it wouldn\'t be compatiable with PC games.  He was shocked, but they said that\'s the only way they would continue is if it wasn\'t PC compatible!!  So he gave it the okay.

Yes, it will have ports, but not direct!  

then why does the nividia dev kit allow dev\'s to make PC games and X-Box games SIMULTANIOUSLY!
that really bothers me, it does everything to try and not look like a PC, but it is.
it will be held back by the majority of games devleopled for both the PC and X-Box
its the first dev kit in history designed for 2 platforms!

Then tell me what games are in development currently due out this year online for PS2? When will I be able to go online with my PS2? Did you read the articles on UKgamer? Are they full of crap? When did I mention that the PS3 was due to be released? I think you are the idiot. I am happy with my Ps2 I just want to see its full potential used.

BUT not all games will be programmed with that in mind.  Some developers are focusing only on X-BOX not even interested in the PC.  THey are two different platforms.  They have similarities but are different.

It\'s kinda like Naomi and Dreamcast.  They are essentially the same but everyone knows Naomi is a bit more powerful and you can get performance out of it that you can\'t on DC.  

Originally posted by jiggs
Then tell me what games are in development currently due out this year online for PS2? When will I be able to go online with my PS2? Did you read the articles on UKgamer? Are they full of crap? When did I mention that the PS3 was due to be released? I think you are the idiot. I am happy with my Ps2 I just want to see its full potential used.  

huh?
why in the hell did you say the ps3 will replace the ps2 beacuse of broadband?
your telling me to talk straght when you make no sense all all!

Originally posted by Ginko
BUT not all games will be programmed with that in mind.  Some developers are focusing only on X-BOX not even interested in the PC.  THey are two different platforms.  They have similarities but are different.

It\'s kinda like Naomi and Dreamcast.  They are essentially the same but everyone knows Naomi is a bit more powerful and you can get performance out of it that you can\'t on DC.  

 

But you can\'t tell me to my face that the x-box is not going to work just like a PC... and have more PC/X-Box games then anything else. Just allowing the dev kits to make games on both platforms opens up the flood gates for pc games.. you can\'t deny that. And your naomi dreamcast comparison is total crap, that has nothing to do with this. We are NOT talking about arcades here, care to tell me what that has to do with 2 home platforms.

"Some developers are focusing only on X-BOX not even interested in the PC."
give me a list of devleopers that are like this.. more then 3, good luck

I am not making this up out of my head! I just read it on the various gaming sites. I really dont care about the ps3 right now. What is your point? And answer the question since your know so much. What online games are in development for the PS2 now? When will we be able to go online?

Originally posted by jiggs
I am not making this up out of my head! I just read it on the various gaming sites. I really dont care about the ps3 right now. What is your point? And answer the question since your know so much. What online games are in development for the PS2 now? When will we be able to go online?  

What article?
could it be from The Register, the most stupid gaming publication yet?

I can tell you right now that tenchu 3 will be online, FF11, and many other titles that dev\'s have not really talked about. The hardrive and modem will go on sale later this year, possibly as early as this summer in the US.

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A good comparison is EA.  Do you think that Madden 2001 for the PS2 was held back because of the PC version?  Why do you think it is any different with X-Box?  Explain...

Originally posted by Chrono
then why does the nividia dev kit allow dev\'s to make PC games and X-Box games SIMULTANIOUSLY!
!

Yes, it allows, but doesn\'t require...

Originally posted by Ginko

Originally posted by Chrono
then why does the nividia dev kit allow dev\'s to make PC games and X-Box games SIMULTANIOUSLY!
!

Yes, it allows, but doesn\'t require... [/B]

yep, it don\'t require...
but why include it?

Hmmm, well chrono, I don\'t have any programming nor
real hardware knowledge, but what jiggs maybe is
trying to say is that with this new generation of game
consoles gamedevelopement is increasingly complex;
more time/effort intensive.
Personally, especially because I live in Europe, the big
PS2 games\' release dates do need getting used to.
This of course also has to do with PS2 shortages which
triggered several games to be delayed.
I just read this interview on IGN cube on Giles Goddard
who worked at Nintendo for a long time and is currently
busy at Video System for their PS2 F1 game.
He has extensive programming knowledge and he pointed out
some differences between NGC and PS2.
He also pointed out, what he believes to be, the bottlenecks PS2 has.
I don\'t conlude from that immediately, but it\'s interesting to think about.
That\'s also because my PS2 is still waiting for the big apps
like the Getaway and Onimusha ( the latter one in Summer for
us Europeans ).
Knotter8  

to reach a broad audience.  Why not?

I am going to admit that the X-BOx will have alot of ports.  But they aren\'t going to be, or don\'t have to be, direct.

There will be things that the X-box can do that the PC can\'t, some developers will choose to exploit that.

ok, Knotter8
but why does he mention ps3?

You can start a new thread in the Console Debating section.