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Offline Ashford
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Check out the 6 character models, their screenshots and the logo of VF4!
« Reply #30 on: February 26, 2001, 09:07:32 PM »
"If it aint broke dont fix it.Do you know why I say that?Because TEKKEN1\'s gameplay won over VF1 Tekken2 Won VF2."

Hmmm, didn\'t keep up with Japan? I did and found something very interesting. VF2 stayed at the TOP of the Japanese arcade charts for over a year. Tekken wasn\'t even listed in the Top 10.

"Then Tekken 3 comes.Introducing a better variety of characters"

"Gotcha.You see Tekken has many similar characters but different tactics too.But lets take some similar characters and compare them.
Law-Lee(Those 2 are almost different)
Kuma-Jack
Baek-Howarang
Heihachi-Jin
etc.
Try to use them those characters and you will see each one has different tactics from its \'clone\'."

Make up your mind. Does Tekken have a wide variety or clones?

The answer is obvious. CLONES!!! Let\'s do the math.

Sub-Bosses: Good idea, lame execution. What\'s with all the similar moves? Renaming a character and re-drawing him, all of a sudden, you count that as a new character? Yes, they do have some different moves. But it still shows Namco\'s laziness and/or cheap tactic to show their "variety".

Take Tekken 3. 2 new characters, a whole load of clones. Please don\'t tell me Bryan, Ogre, Julia, Gun Jack, Jin, and Forest are "new". Same fighters, new names, new look. Yes, those are new moves. But that\'s to be expected from a sequel. Why couldn\'t Namco just call them Bruce, Mr. What The Hell Am I/Flashy Moves All Combined Into One #1 & #2, Michelle, Jack, Jun/Kazuya, and Law? I think Ogre is the lamest boss in the history of fighters. I don\'t think he has any moves not taken from another fighter, except maybe one or two.

Don\'t think I don\'t like Tekken. I actually enjoy it a lot more than VF.
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Yu Suzuki Speaks of Virtua Fighter 4 !!!
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2001, 01:04:03 AM »
In a recent interview with Coremagazine, Yu Suzuki, often compared at the same level as gaming god, Hideo Kojima, gave his latest details on Virtua Fighter 4 for the arcades and which will be later ported to the PS2.
Here is what Mr. Suzuki had to say regarding Virtua Fighter 4: "The stages will be far more complex and interactive this time. Depending upon how hard you hit your opponents, walls can collapse. Outside you can leave trails in the snow, and some stages will change altogether in realtime. Moreover the visuals will be presented differently through better use of the camera. We\'re planning to take advantage of the Naomi2 to fully express characters. Not only are the costumes and backgrounds being refined, but the character models themselves. Everything from hair movement to the way muscles constrict and throb during battle."

I can\'t wait!

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Check out the 6 character models, their screenshots and the logo of VF4!
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2001, 09:52:53 AM »
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Hmmm, didn\'t keep up with Japan? I did and found something very interesting. VF2 stayed at the TOP of the Japanese arcade charts for over a year. Tekken wasn\'t even listed in the Top 10.


 
I am gladly accepting information I havent known before:)
But as a general Tekken was more accepted worldwide.In japan VF was rightfully IMO listed in the TOP10 as it is a great game.

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Make up your mind. Does Tekken have a wide variety or clones?


a variety of \'clones\'.Notice the \'...\'

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The answer is obvious. CLONES!!! Let\'s do the math.

Sub-Bosses: Good idea, lame execution. What\'s with all the similar moves? Renaming a character and re-drawing him, all of a sudden, you count that as a new character? Yes, they do have some different moves. But it still shows Namco\'s laziness and/or cheap tactic to show their "variety".


I have to admit.Namco was lazy with some sub-bosses.But there were also many that differed a lot ffom others.Bruce,Lee(Not to be confused with Bruce Lee:D),GunRyu,Baek/Jun(In some arcades Sub boss was Jun and in some Baek) were very different from main characters.
p-Jack and Jack were very very similar though as well as NIna and Anna.
But Kuma although he has some of Jacks moves he plays differently.  


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Take Tekken 3. 2 new characters, a whole load of clones. Please don\'t tell me Bryan, Ogre, Julia, Gun Jack, Jin, and Forest are "new". Same fighters, new names, new look. Yes, those are new moves. But that\'s to be expected from a sequel. Why couldn\'t Namco just call them Bruce, Mr. What The Hell Am I/Flashy Moves All Combined Into One #1 & #2, Michelle, Jack, Jun/Kazuya, and Law? I think Ogre is the lamest boss in the history of fighters. I don\'t think he has any moves not taken from another fighter, except maybe one or two.


Hey you cant put Tekken3 and Tekken2 in the same category.Bryan,Julia, Gun Jack, Jin, and Law were never ment to be new characters.
They just playied a role in Tekken\'e story thats why they were different.
Namco did a great job with them though.They ve made them so much evolved they playied very different from Tekken2.Epsecially Bryan and Jin.
Howarang,Xiaoyou,Eddy were completely new.
Comparing VF3 to Tekken3 Namco evolved characters and their controls much more than what Sega did with VF3.
Dural stills many moves from the main characters too.Its not just Ogre.
Ogre\'s moves are mostly taken from Tekken2.So Ogre is a mixed Tekken2 fighter that plays differently from other Tekken3 characters.

All complains like clones,similar moves,unbalanced power moves etc were very fixed in TTT.Which I dont take as a Tekken3 with a tag mode.There was an article from an interview with namco here at PS2xcentral about TTT.Its very interesting and highlights the differences of previous tekkens and TTT.

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Don\'t think I don\'t like Tekken. I actually enjoy it a lot more than VF.


I enjoy both a lot:)




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Re: Yu Suzuki Speaks of Virtua Fighter 4 !!!
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2001, 11:16:30 AM »
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Originally posted by BizioEE
In a recent interview with Coremagazine, Yu Suzuki, often compared at the same level as gaming god, Hideo Kojima, gave his latest details on Virtua Fighter 4 for the arcades and which will be later ported to the PS2.
Here is what Mr. Suzuki had to say regarding Virtua Fighter 4: "The stages will be far more complex and interactive this time. Depending upon how hard you hit your opponents, walls can collapse. Outside you can leave trails in the snow, and some stages will change altogether in realtime. Moreover the visuals will be presented differently through better use of the camera. We\'re planning to take advantage of the Naomi2 to fully express characters. Not only are the costumes and backgrounds being refined, but the character models themselves. Everything from hair movement to the way muscles constrict and throb during battle."

I can\'t wait!

 


How dare they compare Suzuki-san to Kojima. Besides Metal Gear, what else has Kojima done that\'s worth mentioning? I\'m asking because I really don\'t know, not cause of sarcasm or spite.

Shouldn\'t it be the other way around? Suzuki has defined, invented, or created the benchmark in many different genres. What kinda comparison is this? It should be Miyamoto/Suzuki/Naka. 3 Top Minds In Gaming!!!

Kojima should be compared with Mikami.

July 2002: If you had bought $1000.00 worth of Nortel stock one year ago, it would now be worth $49.00. Enron, $16.50 left. Worldcom, $5.00 left. If you had bought $1,000.00 worth of Budweiser beer one year ago, drank it all and turned in the cans for the 10 cent deposit, you would have $214.00. Based on the above, my current investment advice is to drink heavily and recycle.

 

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